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Re: "The Garden" (George Dance returns)

Will Dockery 11 February 2008 22:01:55
 
"George Dance" wrote:
On Feb 9, 4:22 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
Gerard Ian Lewis wrote:
On Feb 9, 1:02 pm, Rob Evans aka Mushmouth, wrote:
Will Dockery writes:
No, I don't agree with anti-semitism or racism of any kind, and said
so.
Gerard continues to pal around with the racist Dennis Hammes, and
won't say whether he agrees with him or not... and came onto this
thread apprently to change the subject away from the racism into
attacks on "Will Dockery". Thus supporting and defending the racist.
it's suddenly about talking to Dennis.
It was "about" Dennis Hammes from the first, the rep of these poetry
newsgroups spewing the racism on this thread, which Gerard still can't
face
and voice an opinion on.
Actually, his "original attack"
Actually, the "original attack" was made by /you/ in a comment to the
now-departed George Dance, spineless.
Hey, Will. I'm certainly not reading threads like this, nowadays;

I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest, anyhow... so I'm adding your
name to the subject in case you stop by, and perhaps make it easier to find
in the rapidly approaching 1000 post mark.

though I come on to look for poems to read from time to time. Still
reading off line, of course; I nabbed a copy of Atwood's Selected
Poems last week, and am slowly making my way through it.

I found a great paperback of the collected poems of WB Yeats yesterday, for
two bucks, and am learning a lot from that... plus getting heavily into the
song-poems of Donovan on the car CD player, having found five of his albums
for just over ten bucks over the past couple of weeks.

Interesting how things converge, though. Since Boxing Day I've been
reading and writing on the Ron Paul campaign. If you've been following
that, you'll know that the race card's been played against him.

Here in the USA, the media pretty much never mentions him at all,
everything's Clinton-Obama vs. McCain-Huckabee, on the television, anyhow.

Some pals of mine are still behind Paul, though, notably trumpet player
Riley Yeilding, and "Zorro" collaborator Jocelyn (second video)...

It's a
fascinating story, with all kinds of twists and turns, and I've fallen
into writing an entire series on it:

I'll go have a look at that, since this is the most interesting election
year in a long while... I see from your Google profile the other groups
you're posting in, these days, so may pop in on some of that, as well.

I take it that 'Gerard' is OB - I remember when I was last here, you
were looking for his real name. Funny, I thought it was "Archibald
Cakesniffe." (that's what I remember reading on his blog 8)

The blog where he claimed his /real name/ was plastered all over it,
right... heh.

Now he claims to not be Gerard Ian Lewis... wonder why he'd want to smear
poor Lewis like this, then ?!?

Forgive me if I don't weigh in on the issue; I don't want to take the
time to read the 500 posts in the backthread, let alone the time to
get involved in the thread myself.

Yes, even more difficult to follow since I know you use Google groups to
read this stuff.

But I wanted to let y'all know I'm still around, just one mention of
my name away.

Glad to know.

I wondered if you were okay, since Eileen has been including your email in
on some of our music plans, which include the long-awaited "Lucky Penny"
project, she does a pretty "Can I get lucky, can I get lucky, can I get
lucky with you?" as I do a deadpan Leonard Cohen over the main lyrics, while
Gene Woolfolk rinky-tinks a "Honey Pie" style piano... I /will/ make the
prediction that the finished single will be pretty notable!

--
"Toxin on Glass" by Maxwell-Woolfolk-Fr­ankfurth-Dockery:
http://www.youtube.­com/watch?v=-XWUdCRb­Vnc

Don't forget, you're not supposed to be "seeing" my posts anymore,
Gerard.
Heh.
--
"Mirror Twins" by
Dockery-Fowler:http­://www.myspace.com/s­hadowvilleallstars
"Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley
(video):http://www.­youtube.com/watch?v=­bxfl_7KvFcc


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Meat Plow 12 February 2008 01:04:52 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:01:55 -0500, Will Dockery wrote:

I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,

Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?

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K . A . Cannon 12 February 2008 01:48:28 permanent link ]
 Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.ne­t> posted <1kn2rb.etn.17.2@ne­ws.alt.net>
in rec.arts.poems on Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:04:52 -0500:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:01:55 -0500, Will Dockery wrote:
I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,
Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?

How can having the opinion that Will Drunkerty is a slovenly, drunken,
ignorant, talentless hack be racist?

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Meat Plow 12 February 2008 02:09:39 permanent link ]
 On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:48:28 -0500, K.A.Cannon wrote:

Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.ne­t> posted <1kn2rb.etn.17.2@ne­ws.alt.net>
in rec.arts.poems on Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:04:52 -0500:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:01:55 -0500, Will Dockery wrote:
I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,
Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?
How can having the opinion that Will Drunkerty is a slovenly, drunken,
ignorant, talentless hack be racist?

It's something rational people just don't understand.


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Will Dockery 12 February 2008 09:26:42 permanent link ]
 
"Meat Plow" wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,
Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?

No, just pointing out the facts, Meat.

--
"Wobble" by Dockery-Conley (video):
http://www.youtube.­com/watch?v=UVIF2-qW­IUc


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Dennis M. Hammes 12 February 2008 12:29:31 permanent link ]
 K. A. Cannon wrote:

Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.ne­t> posted <1kn2rb.etn.17.2@ne­ws.alt.net>
in rec.arts.poems on Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:04:52 -0500:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:01:55 -0500, Will Dockery wrote:
I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,
Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?
How can having the opinion that Will Drunkerty is a slovenly, drunken,
ignorant, talentless hack be racist?

Somebody called him "yellow," IIRC...

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Gresham's Law is not worth a Continental.
http://scrawlmark.o­rg
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Dennis M. Hammes 12 February 2008 12:31:25 permanent link ]
 Meat Plow wrote:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:48:28 -0500, K.A.Cannon wrote:
Meat Plow <meat@petitmorte.ne­t> posted <1kn2rb.etn.17.2@ne­ws.alt.net>
in rec.arts.poems on Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:04:52 -0500:
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:01:55 -0500, Will Dockery wrote:
I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,
Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?
How can having the opinion that Will Drunkerty is a slovenly, drunken,
ignorant, talentless hack be racist?
It's something rational people just don't understand.

In Duckrish, "rational" is pronounced "racional."
(I looked it up...)

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Dennis M. Hammes 12 February 2008 12:36:11 permanent link ]
 Will Dockery wrote:

"Meat Plow" wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
I don't blame you - Hammes and his racist supporters have turned it into
just another "Bash Will Dockery" smearfest,
Poor baby. Do you need a group hug?
No, just pointing out the facts, Meat.

Poor thing.

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~/:o)_|
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Will Dockery 12 February 2008 20:11:36 permanent link ]
 
"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
Poor thing.

Lost your toy sword again, Uncle Dennis?

--
"Wobble" by Dockery-Conley (video):
http://www.youtube.­com/watch?v=UVIF2-qW­IUc


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Dennis M. Hammes 13 February 2008 12:27:01 permanent link ]
 Will Dockery wrote:

"Dennis M. Hammes" wrote:
Poor thing.
Lost your toy sword again, Uncle Dennis?

Decades ago. But one of the real ones is about five feet from this
chair.

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Will Dockery 1 December 2009 10:51:25 permanent link ]

"George Dance" <georgedanc...@yaho­o.ca> wrote:

Lucky Penny


Hey there, Lucky Penny,
shining like brand new.
Hey there, Lucky Penny,
can I get lucky with you?


I saw you in an alleyway
shining in the sun.
I knew it was my lucky day,
you were my lucky one.
So many guys had passed you by
and left you all alone,
but I knew I just had to try
to pick you up and bring you home.


Hey there, Lucky Penny,
make my dreams come true.
Be my Lucky Penny.
Let me get lucky with you.


My luck has changed from that day on,
the good times have been many.
I don't care if my money's gone,
I only need a Penny.
I never had a clue before
that life could hold such thrills.
I wouldn't trade my Penny for
a billion brand-new dollar bills.


Hey there, Lucky Penny,
thanks are overdue.
You're my Lucky Penny.
I got lucky with you.


---
George Dance



I found one of the earliest discussions on the "Lucky Penny" collaboration,
all of it almost completely not applicable to the current situation, but
worth a look, and there's some Dennis M. Hammes in his prime, here, as an
additional bonus:

http://www.photogra­phy-forums.com/autog­raph-zorro-dockery-c­onley-bend...


And just moving this from the other thread to here, a more appropriate
place, with more thoughts to probably follow:



Intelligent and good for how it says that Lucky and Dan Quayle were
borne of the same cloth.- Hide quoted text -

Explain please.



Working on that, but sending this on, as-is, with more intended to
follow... time permitting, or response prompting.


Hello, Jimmy (Great to see you here, and no, I haven't forgotten our
song collaboration, Life & all that keeps getting me lured away from
the internet... I'm game for it, but I need to also apologize
toGeorgeDance, who is still waiting for me to finish my collaboration
with him, "Lucky Penny"/"Country Woman", from now onto a year or
two...

No biggie. I realized there'd be some holdups. The big one has been
getting one of your music partners to get inspired by it, of course,
when they're too busy working on their own tunes.



Depends on how the piece is presented to them, and the levels that the
piece is working on, and many things like that, and many things not
like that. Real life, the actual working processes, and what jump-kick
the new songs in the first place. Not to mention the fact that in
many, most, some or all of the various collaborations and
partnerships, there are completely (with some crossovers in various
instrumental capacities such as bass, drum, & more icing-on-the-cake
elements such as flute & vocals) different creators involved, with
different agendas & goals, and the only element that is a constant on
"Will Dockery" works is... "Will Dockery".

The quote that applies, and comes up more often than I would sometimes
expect, is:


"Which side are you on?"


"Mine."


"Situations arise, in spite of the weather." -Lou Reed



I finally have the hook, whateverr-it-is, to get that done,George.


That is what I have, and concepts to get it done. Now I need time, and
energy, and the proper players on the board while the tapes are
rolling, to nail it.

And one or two things, which we'll get to directly, I think... see
below, or next post. I'm hoping to have time for some Archive-diving,
or if you have time, assemble some of the past posts, that's where I'm
heading, to get a feel for just how many thoughts I had that might
still be valid. Over 2 years time some are definitely in the past,
some might be rekindled, and sometimes friends are over-rated.


If that makes any sense, which it does from my side of the fence. But
I have some super-strong coffee a wealthy young lady gave me last
night, along with the new Cat Stevens album (recorded under his new
name, which I can't spell properly without peeking, or don't want to
try, or to look right now) as Thanksgiving presents.


"Lucky Penny" lyrics... what was the deal with them, again? The
archives may illuminate a slight problem, or not... may be a hazy
memory misremembered.


It came to me riding shotgun with Brother Dave



behind the
wheel, Julie & Geno in the backseat, darkest dark of blackest pitch-
night in Phenix City, cutting across to the Krystal for coffees & WiFi
from Seale's Woods of Wonder. Krystal is located next to the Village
Green stripmall of crumbling early-1970s vintage, btw, so the smiling
drunkard spirit of Ray Davies -with a hefty shot of Paul Westerberg-
hangs over the area like Jack Rawshanks in The Fog, et cetera...
anyway, I began the bit:

Hey there Lucky Penny... can I get lucky with you?


and the sweet flute and chick "doo doo doo doo dah doo doo doo doo dah
doo" backing comes in, with:



Who, on the original recording you sent me, is Maureen herself,
singing?


Can I get Lucky?
Can I get Lucky?
Can I get Lucky with you?

That sounds promising.



There are great possibilities, imo, with it... just as written (&
recorded by you & M.) it is a very catchy bit of melody, that I felt
then and still feel, could be pretty nice. See below, maybe, or
above... or the next post. Something like that.


Anyway, back to the response to Jimmy, yes, let's work... will it be
through long-distance file trading? A bit tricky but I think we can
pull it off.)

Stuart, with his DQ & Lucky references, seems to be evoking Peter
O'Toole, the Greybeard Cavalier of LaMancha & his faithful pal Lucky
Sancho, who in the latest incarnation is a pretty little lady in
combat boots from the Green Islands of China... but more on that
later.



Ah, these ideas were taking shape last week but I got sidetracked from
them... I should go back to some of that.

I see the Lucky Penny character emerging there, becoming more & more
real in my mind... which takes it closer to becoming a part of The
Agenda.


Some update questions on "LP/CW" that I know should be archived, but
might help speed the project along, well, one main one, really:


Was there some statement at some point during the work, after I had
taken on the idea of adapting "Lucky Penny"/"Country Woman" that you
didn't want the words or melody tampered with (or changed, adapted)
into something that expands on the actual pieces you originally
created?


I'm writing this backwards, from the top up (a Chinese influence or
something Eastern, maybe) (How Goober, right?) and so I may have asked
that above since I see there's mention of the other creators I work
with, and what may have held up work on "LP/CW" very early on... I'm
going back now for the "lyric sheets" ---yet another hold-up since I
have no printer & so have to make special moves (like asking someone
at least once) to get hardcopy print outs. HC is good about getting
prints of material he specifically has worked with me on, chords,
charts, tabs & words, but as mentioned before, by you, above, this is
almost always exclusively on something he has a direct interest in, ie
"Dockery & Conley" material... but I digress, sort of.


I'll post this and try to get back and communicate what I'm trying to
communicate in a moment, maybe see if I've done that somewhat, yet...
there are about 3-4 aspects that should come together if they can, or
if I have the moving room to get it out there. An opening was shown to
me last night, and it may take some shape if everyone & everything
flows positively to where my vision is going at the moment.


--
"Dream Tears" / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
Written by Will Dockery & Brian Mallard / Guitar - Brian Mallard /
Harmonica - Gary Frankfurth / Flute - John Joiner / Vocal - Will Dockery.
http://www.youtube.­com/watch?v=gX035Yba­fx4


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