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DCU#0 spoiler

Syvyn11 9 May 2008 10:47:46
 Just a little space,



But this has to be the worst kept secret



in comics today.




In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....



Barry Allen!


Is this a permanet thing or tempory?

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Christian Smith 30 April 2008 20:38:48 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT),Chenry <chenry.hen@gmail.c­om>
wrote

On Apr 30, 10:30am, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo­.com> wrote:
Just a little space,
But this has to be the worst kept secret
in comics today.
In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....

reinserting spoiler space.

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Barry Allen!
Is this a permanet thing or tempory?
I heard this on NPR this morning, of all things. If this is permanent,
it makes me sad beyond belief.

Well, IIRC, Barry came back in Geoff Johns run on Flash and said he'll
be back 3 times at times of great crisis for Wally
And has only been back twice so far....till today.
Maybe this is number three...

Christian
--
I take this from YOU? I'm getting lectured on child
safety from a man who's gone through four Robins?
Flash 233
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The Citizen 30 April 2008 21:44:20 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT), Chenry
<chenry.hen@gmail.c­om> wrote:

On Apr 30, 10:30am, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo­.com> wrote:
Just a little space,
But this has to be the worst kept secret
in comics today.
In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....
Barry Allen!
Is this a permanet thing or tempory?
I heard this on NPR this morning, of all things. If this is permanent,
it makes me sad beyond belief.

I realize that DCU Zero is a big deal to DC but shouldn't DC have
waited for Barry Allen to make an actual on-panel appearance before
going to the media for some free publicity?

DUMB.

--
The Citizen
"And how can we win when fools can be kings?"
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Ykw 1 May 2008 00:10:19 [ permanent link ]
 The Citizen <citizen.v@nospam.c­a> wrote in
news:dgbh14lad2an07­9vmj21japte1005njt8m­@4ax.com:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT), Chenry
<chenry.hen@gmail.c­om> wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:30 am, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo­.com> wrote:
Just a little space,
But this has to be the worst kept secret
in comics today.
In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....
Barry Allen!
Is this a permanet thing or tempory?
I heard this on NPR this morning, of all things. If this is permanent,
it makes me sad beyond belief.
I realize that DCU Zero is a big deal to DC but shouldn't DC have
waited for Barry Allen to make an actual on-panel appearance before
going to the media for some free publicity?
DUMB.

Doesn't he "make an actual on-panel appearance" in the last panel? I'm
going by spoilers I've read elsewhere -- my copy won't reach me until
next Monday at the earliest -- so I'm not quite sure how "on-panel" Barry
appears...

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The Citizen 1 May 2008 02:07:06 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:10:19 GMT, "YKW (ad hoc)" <quesada@moron.org>­
wrote:

The Citizen <citizen.v@nospam.c­a> wrote in
news:dgbh14lad2an0­79vmj21japte1005njt8­m@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT), Chenry
<chenry.hen@gmail.c­om> wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:30am, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo­.com> wrote:
Just a little space,
But this has to be the worst kept secret
in comics today.
In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....
Barry Allen!
Is this a permanet thing or tempory?
I heard this on NPR this morning, of all things. If this is permanent,
it makes me sad beyond belief.
I realize that DCU Zero is a big deal to DC but shouldn't DC have
waited for Barry Allen to make an actual on-panel appearance before
going to the media for some free publicity?
DUMB.
Doesn't he "make an actual on-panel appearance" in the last panel? I'm
going by spoilers I've read elsewhere -- my copy won't reach me until
next Monday at the earliest -- so I'm not quite sure how "on-panel" Barry
appears...

No.

Someone scanned the last few pages of it and posted it to Scan Daily:

http://community.li­vejournal.com/scans_­daily/5423614.html#c­utid1

Unless I'm mistaken and Barry Allen is "Waldo"ing somewhere in the
background, the only evidence that hints to Barry's return on-panel
was the yellow lightning bolt against the red sky and the caption box
with a lightning bolt in it, telling the reader that a Flash was
narrating the story.

--
The Citizen
"And how can we win when fools can be kings?"
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Edward McArdle 1 May 2008 10:54:33 [ permanent link ]
 In article <etph14565focqa55of­j1rkptv3c3aiucdh@4ax­.com>,
The Citizen <citizen.v@nospam.c­a> wrote:

I realize that DCU Zero is a big deal to DC but shouldn't DC have
waited for Barry Allen to make an actual on-panel appearance before
going to the media for some free publicity?
DUMB.
Doesn't he "make an actual on-panel appearance" in the last panel? I'm
going by spoilers I've read elsewhere -- my copy won't reach me until
next Monday at the earliest -- so I'm not quite sure how "on-panel" Barry
appears...
No.
Someone scanned the last few pages of it and posted it to Scan Daily:
http://community.li­vejournal.com/scans_­daily/5423614.html#c­utid1
Unless I'm mistaken and Barry Allen is "Waldo"ing somewhere in the
background, the only evidence that hints to Barry's return on-panel
was the yellow lightning bolt against the red sky and the caption box
with a lightning bolt in it, telling the reader that a Flash was
narrating the story.
--
The Citizen
"And how can we win when fools can be kings?"

I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"

--
my URL,
http://members.ozem­ail.com.au/~mcardle
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Carl Fink 1 May 2008 15:37:22 [ permanent link ]
 On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:

I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"

I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly-li­ne-of-crossover-even­ts any more. Why did anyone keep
going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one apologized?
--
Carl Fink nitpicking@nitpicki­ng.com

Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com­. Reviews! Observations!
Stupid mistakes you can correct!
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Ykw 1 May 2008 16:28:56 [ permanent link ]
 Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote in
news:slrng1jarj.oai­.carlf@panix2.panix.­com:

On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50
cents back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly-li­ne-of-crossover-even­ts any more. Why did anyone
keep going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one
apologized?

What does IdC have to do with crossover events? Aside from launching some
titles and storylines -after- its conclusion, was it not =entirely= self-
contained?

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Lilith 1 May 2008 20:20:35 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:07:06 -0400, The Citizen <citizen.v@nospam.c­a>
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:10:19 GMT, "YKW (ad hoc)" <quesada@moron.org>­
wrote:
The Citizen <citizen.v@nospam.c­a> wrote in
news:dgbh14lad2an­079vmj21japte1005njt­8m@4ax.com:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT), Chenry
<chenry.hen@gmail.c­om> wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:30am, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo­.com> wrote:
Just a little space,
But this has to be the worst kept secret
in comics today.
In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....
Barry Allen!
Is this a permanet thing or tempory?
I heard this on NPR this morning, of all things. If this is permanent,
it makes me sad beyond belief.
I realize that DCU Zero is a big deal to DC but shouldn't DC have
waited for Barry Allen to make an actual on-panel appearance before
going to the media for some free publicity?
DUMB.
Doesn't he "make an actual on-panel appearance" in the last panel? I'm
going by spoilers I've read elsewhere -- my copy won't reach me until
next Monday at the earliest -- so I'm not quite sure how "on-panel" Barry
appears...
No.
Someone scanned the last few pages of it and posted it to Scan Daily:
http://community.l­ivejournal.com/scans­_daily/5423614.html#­cutid1
Unless I'm mistaken and Barry Allen is "Waldo"ing somewhere in the
background, the only evidence that hints to Barry's return on-panel
was the yellow lightning bolt against the red sky and the caption box
with a lightning bolt in it, telling the reader that a Flash was
narrating the story.

Note too that the lightning bolt stretched diagonally across the
(overly large) white moon, also part of the design of a Flash costume.
Of course, it could be Bart Allen as well, considering the Legion is
mixed up in this Summer's goings on. Shame, really, that they had to
get Twisers in the shot to get the angle on the lightning bolt so as
to have it show up exactly in that orientation.

--
Lilith
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Grinningdemon 3 May 2008 05:10:09 [ permanent link ]
 On Fri, 2 May 2008 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT), John Desmarais
<jddesmarais@gmail.­com> wrote:

On May 1, 7:37 am, Carl Fink <ca...@panix.com> wrote:
On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcar...@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly-li­ne-of-crossover-even­ts any more. Why did anyone keep
going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one apologized?
Huh?? Identity Crisis wasn't a crossover event. Are you thinking of
Infinite Crisis?
As for why I'll give Final Crisis a chance? I'm willing to give
Morrison the benefit of the doubt for at least a couple of issues
before I pass judgment.
John D

Identity Crisis WAS a crossover...just not on the scale of Infinite
Crisis...it did have tie-in issues (I remember an issue of JSA in
particular where Dr. Midnite was performing Sue Dibny's autopsy) just
not as many as Infinite Crisis...and the nature of the story itself is
a crossover regardless of whether or not the story actually runs
through multiple titles...characters­ from all over the DCU were
involved in the story and it affected many books and kicked off
several threads that lead into Infinite Crisis.
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Grinningdemon 3 May 2008 05:11:55 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:37:22 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:

On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly-l­ine-of-crossover-eve­nts any more. Why did anyone keep
going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one apologized?

DC's crossovers still beat the hell out of Marvel's...House of M,
Civil War, World War Hulk, and, so far, Secret Invasion have all been
huge wastes of paper.
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Howson 3 May 2008 15:46:21 [ permanent link ]
 
"grinningdemon" <grinningdemon@aust­in.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5sen14972paa43­irjt0tvuh1srfcufvee9­@4ax.com...
On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:37:22 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:
On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly-­line-of-crossover-ev­ents any more. Why did anyone keep
going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one apologized?
DC's crossovers still beat the hell out of Marvel's...House of M,
Civil War, World War Hulk, and, so far, Secret Invasion have all been
huge wastes of paper.

DC's cross-overs certaily have more of an epic feel - the stakes are
generally universal (or multiversal) and you really feel that the characters
are facing armaggedon (again!).

But Marvel does the whole shared universe thing better - probably because
they started out like that, whereas the DC guys come from different
companies and editorial fiefdoms - remember when the Superman and Batman
editors were reluctant to let their guys appear in the early JLA?

I 've always preferred the DC series that exist in their own corners (the
LSH in the 31st century, the JSA when they were on Earth-Two, Kamandi, Sgt
Rock, Jonah Hex) and have limited interaction with the other books.


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Bob Hughes 3 May 2008 22:54:53 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 03 May 2008 11:46:21 GMT, "Howson" <notme@nospam.co.uk­> wrote:

"grinningdemon" <grinningdemon@aust­in.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5sen14972paa4­3irjt0tvuh1srfcufvee­9@4ax.com...
On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:37:22 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:
On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly­-line-of-crossover-e­vents any more. Why did anyone keep
going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one apologized?
DC's crossovers still beat the hell out of Marvel's...House of M,
Civil War, World War Hulk, and, so far, Secret Invasion have all been
huge wastes of paper.
DC's cross-overs certaily have more of an epic feel - the stakes are
generally universal (or multiversal) and you really feel that the characters
are facing armaggedon (again!).
But Marvel does the whole shared universe thing better - probably because
they started out like that, whereas the DC guys come from different
companies and editorial fiefdoms - remember when the Superman and Batman
editors were reluctant to let their guys appear in the early JLA?
I 've always preferred the DC series that exist in their own corners (the
LSH in the 31st century, the JSA when they were on Earth-Two, Kamandi, Sgt
Rock, Jonah Hex) and have limited interaction with the other books.
I would certainly question why anybody who didn't like Identity Crisis
would continue to buy DC's mega crossover series.
I liked that one and most of what followed- although Countdown turned
out to be a load of mega -crap and therfore I'm not planning on
picking up any of the news ones, except Legion of Three Worlds. Of
course, a tremendous outpouring of fan support for any ot them could
make me change my mind-- and buy the collected edition.

The last time that happened was Kurt Busiek's Avengers Forever. It
sucked major big-time barforooney. Ah well. It doesn't take up as
much space as the equivalent issues would, and I got to be
disappointed once, instead of over and over again for 12 months.

Bob Hughes

"I am perpetually awaiting a rebirth of wonder." Lawrence Ferlinghetti
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Billy Bissette 4 May 2008 01:38:40 [ permanent link ]
 "Howson" <notme@nospam.co.uk­> wrote in
news:hgYSj.4481$WA5­.1229@newsfe6-gui.nt­li.net:
"grinningdemon" <grinningdemon@aust­in.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5sen14972paa43­irjt0tvuh1srfcufvee9­@4ax.com...
On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:37:22 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:
On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50
cents back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly­-line-of-crossover-e­vents any more. Why did anyone
keep going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one
apologized?
DC's crossovers still beat the hell out of Marvel's...House of M,
Civil War, World War Hulk, and, so far, Secret Invasion have all been
huge wastes of paper.
DC's cross-overs certaily have more of an epic feel - the stakes are
generally universal (or multiversal) and you really feel that the
characters are facing armaggedon (again!).

To me, DC's cross-overs are as badly written and designed as
Marvel's. The difference is that DC's are so series inclusive (due
to what creates the epic feel you mention) that they are more
disruptive and damaging to the company and universe as a whole.

Civil War was ludicrous with gaping holes in logic and characters
being written badly out-of-character. And Identity Crisis was
equally bad, and worse in some areas.

As was said, World War Hulk was a waste of paper. For a
storyline that should have been fairly easy to write, it pulled a
lot of crap to fill its issues. Heck, by the standards of both
DC and Marvel, it was high quality because it was only a waste of
paper, and not damaging to the line or exceedingly bereft of all
logic.
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Mike B 4 May 2008 15:41:01 [ permanent link ]
 Raven wrote:
Maybe the Joker has found an insight similar to the one shown by
Psycho-Pirate in Animal Man: maybe the Joker is now aware about
the comic-book nature of the DC Universe.

I always considered that the Joker's madness caused him to remember the
original Multiverse, or Hypertime, or something. Someone here once quoted
him as far back as THE KILLING JOKE saying "sometimes I remember my
origin happening one way, sometimes another" -- or words to that effect.
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Grinningdemon 5 May 2008 07:12:56 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 03 May 2008 11:46:21 GMT, "Howson" <notme@nospam.co.uk­> wrote:

"grinningdemon" <grinningdemon@aust­in.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5sen14972paa4­3irjt0tvuh1srfcufvee­9@4ax.com...
On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:37:22 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:
On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50 cents
back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembly­-line-of-crossover-e­vents any more. Why did anyone keep
going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one apologized?
DC's crossovers still beat the hell out of Marvel's...House of M,
Civil War, World War Hulk, and, so far, Secret Invasion have all been
huge wastes of paper.
DC's cross-overs certaily have more of an epic feel - the stakes are
generally universal (or multiversal) and you really feel that the characters
are facing armaggedon (again!).

Agreed...Marvel just can't get that feeling.

But Marvel does the whole shared universe thing better - probably because
they started out like that, whereas the DC guys come from different
companies and editorial fiefdoms - remember when the Superman and Batman
editors were reluctant to let their guys appear in the early JLA?

There was a time I would have agreed with you...but, for at least the
last several years, Marvel has done a horrible job with continuity and
coordination between their books and characters...especi­ally when it
comes to the big crossover events...Civil War was a huge mess with no
clear timeline between the central story and the tie-ins and blatant
contradictions at times...it was like the editors weren't even reading
the books anymore.

I 've always preferred the DC series that exist in their own corners (the
LSH in the 31st century, the JSA when they were on Earth-Two, Kamandi, Sgt
Rock, Jonah Hex) and have limited interaction with the other books.

I can understand that...but the funny thing is, the only MARVEL
crossovers that have been any good in recent years were the ones that
fit this profile...Annihilat­ion (and Conquest) which dealt only with
the space characters (none of whom had their own books at the time)
and the recent X-Men Crossover Messiah Complex which was totally
confined to the x-books...the company-wide events have been
awful...and, with the way Civil War has crapped all over most of
Marvel's books, those niche titles (as you describe) are the only ones
I like anymore...I have become much more of a DC fan in recent years.
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Grinningdemon 5 May 2008 07:16:03 [ permanent link ]
 On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:38:40 -0500, Billy Bissette
<baines@coastalnet.­com> wrote:

"Howson" <notme@nospam.co.uk­> wrote in
news:hgYSj.4481$WA­5.1229@newsfe6-gui.n­tli.net:
"grinningdemon" <grinningdemon@aust­in.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5sen14972paa43­irjt0tvuh1srfcufvee9­@4ax.com...
On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:37:22 +0000 (UTC), Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com>
wrote:
On 2008-05-01, Edward McArdle <mcardle@ozemail.co­m.au> wrote:
I have to say that my reaction to this comic was "Can I have my 50
cents back?"
I'm amazed that people still buy DC's
endless-assembl­y-line-of-crossover-­events any more. Why did anyone
keep going after Identity Crisis was so horrible and no one
apologized?
DC's crossovers still beat the hell out of Marvel's...House of M,
Civil War, World War Hulk, and, so far, Secret Invasion have all been
huge wastes of paper.
DC's cross-overs certaily have more of an epic feel - the stakes are
generally universal (or multiversal) and you really feel that the
characters are facing armaggedon (again!).
To me, DC's cross-overs are as badly written and designed as
Marvel's. The difference is that DC's are so series inclusive (due
to what creates the epic feel you mention) that they are more
disruptive and damaging to the company and universe as a whole.
Civil War was ludicrous with gaping holes in logic and characters
being written badly out-of-character. And Identity Crisis was
equally bad, and worse in some areas.
As was said, World War Hulk was a waste of paper. For a
storyline that should have been fairly easy to write, it pulled a
lot of crap to fill its issues. Heck, by the standards of both
DC and Marvel, it was high quality because it was only a waste of
paper, and not damaging to the line or exceedingly bereft of all
logic.

Agreed...the best thing I can say about World War Hulk is that nothing
of consequence happened in it.
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Joe Sewell 7 May 2008 03:05:04 [ permanent link ]
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<4273b67f-53ea-4582­-af06-2afaa3991409@c­58g2000hsc.googlegro­ups.com>,
Deadman <deadmansparty2002@­yahoo.ca> wrote:

On May 4, 5:50am, Raven <psicoanarch...@gma­il.com> wrote:
On 4 Mag, 13:41, Mike B <M1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I always considered that the Joker's madness caused him to remember the
original Multiverse, or Hypertime, or something. Someone here once quoted
him as far back as THE KILLING JOKE saying "sometimes I remember my
origin happening one way, sometimes another" -- or words to that effect.
The whole scene, by the way, seems an exact replica of the dialogue
from "Killing Joke"
Homage or something else?
Actually, in the Origin of Villains section of Countdown to Final
Crisis, at least I think it was in Countdown, it had him remembering
several different versions of his origin and not being sure which was
the right one.

Correct. He starts off with the Killing Joke version, then the Jack
Napier version, then "settles" for the classic Red Hood tale. I have no
idea which one the recent Batman Confidential arc told, nor do I really
care.
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Mg 8 May 2008 15:48:59 [ permanent link ]
 
"Sean Walsh" <seanocity@gmail.co­m> wrote in message
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On Apr 30, 8:41 pm, Tony <TonyJ1...@aol.com>­ wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:38?am, Christian Smith <christ...@smith.ne­t> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT),Chenry <chenry....@gmail.c­om>
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On Apr 30, 10:30?am, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo­.com> wrote:
Just a little space,
But this has to be the worst kept secret
in comics today.
In the end of DCU0 it's the return of.....
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Barry Allen!
Is this a permanet thing or tempory?
I heard this on NPR this morning, of all things. If this is permanent,
it makes me sad beyond belief.
Well, IIRC, Barry came back in Geoff Johns run on Flash and said he'll
be back 3 times at times of great crisis for Wally
And has only been back twice so far....till today.
Maybe this is number three...
Christian
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?I take this from YOU? ?I'm getting lectured on child
safety from a man who's gone through four Robins?
Flash 233
--I'm glad you mentioned that, though people are *still* going to be
up in arms over this. Despite the fact that Geoff Johns telegraphed
this several years ago.

Exactly. Very few people on various forums don't seem to remember
Barry showing up in FLASH #200 and telling Wally "I'll return at the 3
worst times of your life to help you." That, INFINITE CRISIS and now
FINAL CRISIS seem to be the 3 times. And hey............he never said
that after the 3rd time he'd have to go die.

Also, it seems kinda neat that he's "one with the multiverse," and is
coming back when a big threat to the multiverse is about to it. It's
like.....he's being sent back, BY the multiverse, to help the heroes
fight Darkseid.

Tony (who notes that Barry didn't *technically* come back in DCU0; at
least not on panel)

And what was up with that strip club at the end? Was it a place that's
actually important to the FINAL CRISIS story (is that where the Dark
Side Club is??) or just a message - like, "In trying times, when thw
world is needing a hero, here comes our last hope to save us all."

I believe the strip club was where the villains were holding their meeting.


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Grinningdemon 9 May 2008 10:47:46 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 8 May 2008 22:22:41 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<Paul.Duggan@jcu.ed­u.au> wrote:

On May 3, 11:10 am, grinningdemon <grinningde...@aust­in.rr.com> wrote:
Identity Crisis WAS a crossover...
IdC was a self-contained story that they decided to connect other
stories to.

Then Infinite Crisis was no different...or, for that matter, any of
Marvel's major crossovers in recent years...they all had a central
series that told a self-contained story but had many other stories
tie-in to it...none of which were essential to the main story...Final
Crisis will be no different.

characters from all over the DCU were
involved in the story
So every issue of The Justice League is a crossover?

Apples and oranges, my friend...JLA is a regular series focusing on a
specific TEAM with a fairly regular cast...Identity Crisis was a mini
series focused on an EVENT that was specifically designed to draw in
characters from all over the DCU (many of whom came and went during
the course of the story) and affect many of DC's ongoing books...to
me, that is most definitely a crossover...perhaps­ not in traditional
sense of a story beginning in one title and continuing in another but
that type is a dying breed...I'd wager the people at DC would consider
it a crossover.

and it affected many books and kicked off
several threads that lead into Infinite Crisis.
Only because they decided to use it as an excuse to lead into InfC.

So? That can be said for any crossover or tie-in story in any
event...the details of every story that gets published are contingent
on the creators involved.

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