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XYWE > Movie > Field Recorder 29 April 2005 02:05:51

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Field Recorder

Is 19 April 2005 19:13:08
 I'm looking for a cheap solution to record onto a field recorder.
Not only to the video tape.
That way I have a back up and hopefully a better quality recording.
So far I've found the Marantz PMD670 to be a possibility.
Has anyone tried those?
http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=1582&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169

If so how are they?
Is there something else I should/could consider for about the same price,
600 UDS.

I'm going out of a Cooper 104.

Thanks

IS


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Oleg Kaizerman 19 April 2005 21:32:46 permanent link ]
 www.oade.com
http://www.oade.com­/Tapers_Section/Foru­m/dcboard.php?az=sho­w_topics&forum=100

http://taperssectio­n.com/index.php?boar­d=11.0

check the both places , these people are there kings of do it the cheap way

the oade do making improvements on the gear they sell , so you can get a
better specifications recorder then one from the shelf

what about the bible do you can place one and hook the pzm on the other side
, the war and peace can work even better :-)­

--
Oleg Kaizerman (gebe) Hollyland


"IS" <y@y.com> wrote in message
news:8e99e.397$%L1.­358@newssvr30.news.p­rodigy.com...> I'm looking for a cheap solution to record onto a field recorder.> Not only to the video tape.> That way I have a back up and hopefully a better quality recording.> So far I've found the Marantz PMD670 to be a possibility.> Has anyone tried those?> http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=1582&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169>
If so how are they?> Is there something else I should/could consider for about the same price, > 600 UDS.>
I'm going out of a Cooper 104.>
Thanks>


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Courtney Goodin 21 April 2005 01:56:43 permanent link ]
 
"IS" <y@y.com> wrote in message
news:8e99e.397$%L1.­358@newssvr30.news.p­rodigy.com...> I'm looking for a cheap solution to record onto a field recorder.> Not only to the video tape.> That way I have a back up and hopefully a better quality recording.> So far I've found the Marantz PMD670 to be a possibility.> Has anyone tried those?> http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=1582&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169>
I would look at the Marantz MPD660. It is much more compact and has most of
the features of the 670. Also sells for around $650 U.S. Same quality
better battery life.

http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=3629&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169
---Courtney


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Jay Rose CAS 21 April 2005 02:31:45 permanent link ]
 
I would look at the Marantz MPD660. It is much more compact and has most of > the features of the 670. Also sells for around $650 U.S. Same quality > better battery life.

My son is assistant chief at a large newsradio station where they use the
670. He evaluated the 660, and they decided it wouldn't be rugged enough
for daily field use.

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Correct address is spell out the letter j, AT dplaydahtcom
Clio- and Emmy-winning sound design
Learn audio for video at www.dplay.com
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Courtney Goodin 21 April 2005 02:42:16 permanent link ]
 
"Jay Rose CAS" <SEE-SIGFILE@rcn.co­m> wrote in message
news:SEE-SIGFILE-20­04051831450001@192.1­68.1.101...>
I would look at the Marantz MPD660. It is much more compact and has most >> of>> the features of the 670. Also sells for around $650 U.S. Same quality>> better battery life.>
My son is assistant chief at a large newsradio station where they use the> 670. He evaluated the 660, and they decided it wouldn't be rugged enough> for daily field use.>
As is usually the case, Ruggedness and Cheap are inversly proportional.
It is made of plastic, but so is the 670. What specifically did your son
find to be its weakest points as far a durability? (other than it feels very
light because it is just a plastic case (half the size of the 670) and a
circuit board).. Maybe they should have put some lead in the case to make it
feel more substantial.

---Courtney


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Wolf 21 April 2005 12:22:58 permanent link ]
 i have been trying to get some real answers from OADE for 4 months but all I get
is excuses... not sure if they are really in business...
wolf

Oleg Kaizerman wrote:> www.oade.com> http://www.oade.com­/Tapers_Section/Foru­m/dcboard.php?az=sho­w_topics&forum=100>
check the both places , these people are there kings of do it the cheap way>
the oade do making improvements on the gear they sell , so you can get a > better specifications recorder then one from the shelf>
what about the bible do you can place one and hook the pzm on the other side > , the war and peace can work even better :-)­>

--
Long excerpts from both my books at http://695.com/html­/edu-ws-sync.html

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Wolf 21 April 2005 12:24:03 permanent link ]
 some links - no experience with any of thsi

Denon DNF-20R. This is a Portable Compact Flash Field Recorder Accepts up to
192MB CF Supports MPEG 1 and MPEG 2 and Linear PCM (.WAV) Selectable sampling
rate of 24kHz or 48kHz Selectable bit rate of 16kbps~128kbps (MPEG) 2 memory
card slots for extended Playback/Recording Stereo or mono recording Mic
Limiter, attenuator and low cut filter switches Runs on 6 AA batteries, or
supplied AC adapter Download the PDF literature,
http://www.usa.deno­n.com/catalog/pdfs/D­NF20RLIT.pdf

Marantz 670 2nd generation (2003) flash card recorder is the radio reporters
dream. Long batt life: 10 hr on 8 AA, bulletproof, good manual rec level, bad
ALC, good mic pres, don’t use the 20db pad, meter is a VU type – that’s bad,
standard WAV format Files can be transferred directly to the PC, either through
a USB connection, or by inserting the flash memory card in the PCMCIA slot of a
laptop. Using a medium quality setting and a 1 Gigabyte flash memory card, over
6 hours of audio can be recorded. http://www.marantzp­ro.com/Products/PMD6­70.html

Marantz PMD680 PC Card Recorder (discontinued 2003). This is a monaural
recorder that records digital audio files that can be transferred to a computer.
Compressed MP2 digital stereo audio files recorded on the PMD690 can be stored
as MP2 (.mp2) or in the Broadcast Wave standard (.bwf). at 48.1K The recorded PC
Flash Card or IBM microdrive (up to 1G in 2002) into your computer’s PC Card
slot. Approx $ 1200.00
http://www.supersco­pe-marantzpro.com/Ma­rantz/PMD680/pmd680.­html
Stereo version that allows uncompressed recording (PCM) in the true wave (.wav)
file format.: http://www.supersco­pe-marantzpro.com/Ma­rantz/PMD680/pmd690.­html
And http://www.marantzp­ro.com/Products/PMD6­90.html

The new PMD660 for 2005 costs only $ 500 records BWF onto CF card, built in
mikes. http://www.bswusa.c­om/proditem.asp?item­=PMD660 field report
http://www.transom.­org/tools/recording_­interviewing/200503.­pmd660.html and
http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=3629&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169

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Is 21 April 2005 20:10:06 permanent link ]
 I did look at the 660. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Also what is the difference between the PDM 670 and the 671?

http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=1582&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169

http://www.d-mpro.c­om/users/folder.asp?­FolderID=3689&CatID=­18&SubCatID=169

Thanks

IS




I would look at the Marantz MPD660. It is much more compact and has most > of the features of the 670. Also sells for around $650 U.S. Same quality > better battery life.>


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Wolf 22 April 2005 07:42:27 permanent link ]
 note: "Virtual Third Head" for confidence monitoring

now I heard it all......... wonder what they mean... wolf

IS wrote:
I did look at the 660. Thanks for pointing that out to me.>
Also what is the difference between the PDM 670 and the 671?>
Thanks>
I would look at the Marantz MPD660. It is much more compact and has most >>of the features of the 670. Also sells for around $650 U.S. Same quality >>better battery life.>>

--
Long excerpts from both my books at http://695.com/html­/edu-ws-sync.html

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Jay Rose CAS 22 April 2005 20:32:01 permanent link ]
 In article <p7CdncRBnf3Z7_XfRV­n-1A@comcast.com>, wolf
<wolfvidREPLACEWITH­_ATcomcast.net> wrote:
note: "Virtual Third Head" for confidence monitoring [pmkd660]>
now I heard it all......... wonder what they mean... wolf

Possibly that it goes thru the AD/DA process... unlike the 'confidence
monitor' on a PD170, which never enters the digital domain.

I'd be pretty satisfied with that, if they'd clean up the language. When's
the last time you hit a bad sector in a memory card?

--
Correct address is spell out the letter j, AT dplaydahtcom
Clio- and Emmy-winning sound design
Learn audio for video at www.dplay.com
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Is 23 April 2005 03:35:33 permanent link ]
 Jay,
I just got your post production book about a week ago.
I've used it a lot, it's good.
Thanks.
IS



"Jay Rose CAS" <SEE-SIGFILE@rcn.co­m> wrote in message
news:SEE-SIGFILE-22­04051232010001@192.1­68.1.101...> In article <p7CdncRBnf3Z7_XfRV­n-1A@comcast.com>, wolf> <wolfvidREPLACEWITH­_ATcomcast.net> wrote:>
note: "Virtual Third Head" for confidence monitoring [pmkd660]>>
now I heard it all......... wonder what they mean... wolf>
Possibly that it goes thru the AD/DA process... unlike the 'confidence> monitor' on a PD170, which never enters the digital domain.>
I'd be pretty satisfied with that, if they'd clean up the language. When's> the last time you hit a bad sector in a memory card?>
-- > Correct address is spell out the letter j, AT dplaydahtcom> Clio- and Emmy-winning sound design> Learn audio for video at www.dplay.com


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Len Moskowitz 27 April 2005 02:52:17 permanent link ]
 IS <y@y.com> wrote:
I'm looking for a cheap solution to record onto a field recorder.>Not only to the video tape.>That way I have a back up and hopefully a better quality recording.>So far I've found the Marantz PMD670 to be a possibility.>Has anyone tried those?

Here's a comparison file:

http://www.core-sou­nd.com/comparison-pd­audio-pmd-670-fr-2.h­tml

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthm­icrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sou­nd.com
moskowit@core-sound­.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
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Kurt Albershardt 27 April 2005 20:16:14 permanent link ]
 IS wrote:>
what is the difference between the PDM 670 and the 671?


PMD670 is a 16-bit device.
PMD671 is a 24-bit device.
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G. John Garrett 28 April 2005 06:07:33 permanent link ]
 Kurt Albershardt wrote:> IS wrote:>
what is the difference between the PDM 670 and the 671?>
PMD670 is a 16-bit device.>
PMD770 is a 24-bit device.>
I think the 671 will do 24 bit.

John
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Kurt Albershardt 29 April 2005 02:05:51 permanent link ]
 Len Moskowitz wrote:>

Page needs another update--"Last updated: April 18, 2005"

and

"Sound Devices has announced two portable high-resolution audio
recorders, both considerably more expensive than the four recorders
compared here. To date they have not been released for sale."

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