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XYWE > Music > How Yoko Got John Back From May Pang 19 July 2008 03:22:37

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How Yoko Got John Back From May Pang

White Shadow 19 July 2008 03:22:37
 I wanted to suggest that everyone read May Pang's book "Loving John"
because she details exactly how Yoko got John back from May Pang in
late January 1975:

By that time, Yoko had already had a failed solo tour of Japan with
her screeching antics, and knew that she would never have a successful
recording/performin­g career on her own. She knew that her future lay
with John's millions, and that if she hoped to go on living the easy
life, she had better get him away from May.

So she basically kidnapped John and subjected him to mind
control/hypnosis/dr­ug therapy during a weekend-long marathon session
that originally started out as just a one hour "stop smoking hypnosis"
session that Yoko had promised John would break him of his smoking
habit (she lied, of course, and said it had worked for her).

Anyway, May's book provides some really interesting background
information about this sorry episode. Yoko then got pregnant that
weekend or during that week. I have no evidence to back this up, but
my guess is that she had been going to a fertility clinic to boost her
fertility so she could get pregnant and then finally and forever suck
John back to her permanently.

John had become quite bored with Yoko and had stopped taking calls
from her in December 1974/January 1975, and was looking at houses to
buy for him and May Pang to live in, so he was very serious about May
after having lived with her for 18 months at Yoko's insistence.

Yoko resorted to some really ugly stuff to get John back. He was,
after all, her meal ticket.

More about that in a future post.
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BlackMonk 17 December 2006 02:20:18 permanent link ]
 
"White Shadow" <wampum@maximus.com­> wrote in message
news:2aq8o2paaj49dh­a329avniivjdufct4ncs­@4ax.com...> So she basically kidnapped John and subjected him to mind> control/hypnosis/dr­ug therapy during a weekend-long marathon session> that originally started out as just a one hour "stop smoking hypnosis"> session that Yoko had promised John would break him of his smoking> habit (she lied, of course, and said it had worked for her).>

A person would have to either be a lunatic or know absolutely nothing about
mind control/hypnosis/ drug therapy to believe this was possible.

Which are you?


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BlackMonk 17 December 2006 03:48:21 permanent link ]
 
"Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message
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"BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.ms­n.com> wrote in message > news:em1uv7$6gd$1@a­ioe.org...>>
"White Shadow" <wampum@maximus.com­> wrote in message >> news:2aq8o2paaj49dh­a329avniivjdufct4ncs­@4ax.com...>>> So she basically kidnapped John and subjected him to mind>>> control/hypnosis/dr­ug therapy during a weekend-long marathon session>>> that originally started out as just a one hour "stop smoking hypnosis">>> session that Yoko had promised John would break him of his smoking>>> habit (she lied, of course, and said it had worked for her).>>>
A person would have to either be a lunatic or know absolutely nothing >> about mind control/hypnosis/ drug therapy to believe this was possible.>>
Which are you?>>
I know several people who sucessfully used hypnosis to stop smoking.>

And from that you conclude that it would be possible to make John go back to
Yoko even though he really wanted to stay with May Pang?

First of all, hypnosis is far from 100% effective. Look at how many people
try to use it to stop smoking and fail.

Second, those people who successfully used it WANTED to stop smoking and
were willingly hypotized.

As easily John seemed to be led around by Yoko, the scenario seems > possible.

To someone who knows nothing about hypnosis and wants to believe the worst
about Yoko (as evidenced by your use of "led around by Yoko"), perhaps.


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Frank from Deeetroit 17 December 2006 04:21:21 permanent link ]
 
"BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.ms­n.com> wrote in message
news:em244a$h54$1@a­ioe.org...>
"Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message > news:KpOdnTQ0ao8uHh­nYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@c­omcast.com...>>
"BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.ms­n.com> wrote in message >> news:em1uv7$6gd$1@a­ioe.org...>>>
"White Shadow" <wampum@maximus.com­> wrote in message >>> news:2aq8o2paaj49dh­a329avniivjdufct4ncs­@4ax.com...>>>> So she basically kidnapped John and subjected him to mind>>>> control/hypnosis/dr­ug therapy during a weekend-long marathon session>>>> that originally started out as just a one hour "stop smoking hypnosis">>>> session that Yoko had promised John would break him of his smoking>>>> habit (she lied, of course, and said it had worked for her).>>>>
A person would have to either be a lunatic or know absolutely nothing >>> about mind control/hypnosis/ drug therapy to believe this was possible.>>>
Which are you?>>>
I know several people who sucessfully used hypnosis to stop smoking.>>
And from that you conclude that it would be possible to make John go back > to Yoko even though he really wanted to stay with May Pang?

Well, it seems obvious that Yoko tickled John in the wright places and she
is a control freak. Once she reeled John in, they remained together until
he passed. Not the first time in history that a women used her power to
reel a guy in.
First of all, hypnosis is far from 100% effective. Look at how many people > try to use it to stop smoking and fail.

I agree with you 100% on the effectiveness of hypnosis, however, I used
hypnosis to quit smoking in 1981 as well as about five other friends of mine
and it worked for us. Far from a control group to study.
Second, those people who successfully used it WANTED to stop smoking and > were willingly hypotized.

100% fact for sure.

As easily John seemed to be led around by Yoko, the scenario seems >> possible.>
To someone who knows nothing about hypnosis and wants to believe the worst > about Yoko (as evidenced by your use of "led around by Yoko"), perhaps.

Well, from personal experience, I know a little about hypnosis. I had a
late aquantance who had a hypnosis practice (she is dead, so I do not know
what college degree she possessed in hypnosis, buy she did have a degree in
hypnosis) for law enforcement. We used her sucessfully for recruits to
focus on their ability to improve on their marksmanship skills and to
concentrate on their studies for promotional exam testing. All persons
chose to use hypnosis as a tool to acheive a goal. Hypnosis is not as
commonly depicted on tv or in the movies. No one can swing a pocketwatch in
front of a person and make the person quack like a duck.

Yoko pussywhipped John, his choice. Not a negative comment towards Yoko, a
lot of us guys get 'whipped over a women, no big deal.


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BlackMonk 17 December 2006 06:03:47 permanent link ]
 
"Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message
news:-NGdnYaA1u8HBh­nYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@c­omcast.com...>>>>> A person would have to either be a lunatic or know absolutely nothing>>>> about mind control/hypnosis/ drug therapy to believe this was possible.>>>>
Which are you?>>>>
I know several people who sucessfully used hypnosis to stop smoking.>>>
And from that you conclude that it would be possible to make John go back >> to Yoko even though he really wanted to stay with May Pang?>
Well, it seems obvious that Yoko tickled John in the wright places and she > is a control freak. Once she reeled John in, they remained together until > he passed. Not the first time in history that a women used her power to > reel a guy in.>

Not the first time in history a man stayed with a woman because he wanted
to.
Well, from personal experience, I know a little about hypnosis. I had a > late aquantance who had a hypnosis practice (she is dead, so I do not know > what college degree she possessed in hypnosis, buy she did have a degree > in hypnosis) for law enforcement. We used her sucessfully for recruits to > focus on their ability to improve on their marksmanship skills and to > concentrate on their studies for promotional exam testing. All persons > chose to use hypnosis as a tool to acheive a goal. Hypnosis is not as > commonly depicted on tv or in the movies. No one can swing a pocketwatch > in front of a person and make the person quack like a duck.>

Exactly, which is why I find the suggestion that John walked into a hypnosis
session in order to stop smoking, then walked out with his feelings for Yoko
and May reversed, absurd. Especially since it was supposed to happen over a
weekend. I'm guessing that your experience with using hypnosis to stop
smoking, where you were a willing subject and the goal was arguably simpler,
took longer than that.

I can understand May Pang believing it. People convince themselves of lots
of things in order to make the reality of a lover leaving them for someone
else more palatable. That doesn't make those things any more realistic,
though.
Yoko pussywhipped John, his choice. Not a negative comment towards Yoko, > a lot of us guys get 'whipped over a women, no big deal.

Do you consider a wife who does what her husband wants to be cockwhipped?
What's the alternative? That spouses oppose each other at all times? That
doesn't sound like a recipe for a successful marriage.


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Frank from Deeetroit 17 December 2006 06:24:46 permanent link ]
 
"BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.ms­n.com> wrote in message
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"Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message > news:-NGdnYaA1u8HBh­nYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@c­omcast.com...>>>>>> A person would have to either be a lunatic or know absolutely nothing>>>>> about mind control/hypnosis/ drug therapy to believe this was >>>>> possible.>>>>>
Which are you?>>>>>
I know several people who sucessfully used hypnosis to stop smoking.>>>>
And from that you conclude that it would be possible to make John go >>> back to Yoko even though he really wanted to stay with May Pang?>>
Well, it seems obvious that Yoko tickled John in the wright places and >> she is a control freak. Once she reeled John in, they remained together >> until he passed. Not the first time in history that a women used her >> power to reel a guy in.>>
Not the first time in history a man stayed with a woman because he wanted > to.>
Well, from personal experience, I know a little about hypnosis. I had a >> late aquantance who had a hypnosis practice (she is dead, so I do not >> know what college degree she possessed in hypnosis, buy she did have a >> degree in hypnosis) for law enforcement. We used her sucessfully for >> recruits to focus on their ability to improve on their marksmanship >> skills and to concentrate on their studies for promotional exam testing. >> All persons chose to use hypnosis as a tool to acheive a goal. Hypnosis >> is not as commonly depicted on tv or in the movies. No one can swing a >> pocketwatch in front of a person and make the person quack like a duck.>>
Exactly, which is why I find the suggestion that John walked into a > hypnosis session in order to stop smoking, then walked out with his > feelings for Yoko and May reversed, absurd. Especially since it was > supposed to happen over a weekend. I'm guessing that your experience with > using hypnosis to stop smoking, where you were a willing subject and the > goal was arguably simpler, took longer than that.

My guess, is if Yoko suggested to John to go and have his long weekend, and
he left, he may have wanted to be with her all along. My guess only.
I can understand May Pang believing it. People convince themselves of lots > of things in order to make the reality of a lover leaving them for someone > else more palatable. That doesn't make those things any more realistic, > though.

True, but we have all witnessed John and Yoko's relationship through the
good and rocky times. Seems plausible that she looked at John as a cash cow.
they sure liked the sucurity of each other.
Yoko pussywhipped John, his choice. Not a negative comment towards Yoko, >> a lot of us guys get 'whipped over a women, no big deal.>
Do you consider a wife who does what her husband wants to be cockwhipped?

By definition, yes.
What's the alternative? That spouses oppose each other at all times? That > doesn't sound like a recipe for a successful marriage.

How far off do you want to go with this?




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BlackMonk 17 December 2006 20:32:50 permanent link ]
 
<fattuchus@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
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As I said, people get married and stay married for many different> reasons besides love.> John may have realized that he had a personality disorder or some other> emotional problem where if he was with a sweet, gentle woman, he would> sometimes get drunk and beat the crap out of her. He did that to May> several times, and was very remorseful. John may have cared very> deeply for May and realized that without a strong woman dominating him,> he might hurt his woman.>

That's armchair psychology from someone not qualified to pracitice
psychology. You even quote John as saying he loved Yoko. Why do you have a
need to believe that he really didn't?


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BlackMonk 17 December 2006 20:34:50 permanent link ]
 
"Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message
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You seem to have all the answers, what is your take on the John/Yoko/May > thing?

John left Yoko becaue he wanted to. He spent time with May because he wanted
to. He went back to Yoko because he wanted to. He stayed with Yoko because
he wanted to.


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BlackMonk 18 December 2006 00:59:24 permanent link ]
 
"fishandchips" <Chippandfish@aol.c­om> wrote in message
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BlackMonk wrote:>> "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message>> news:_audnYZJw5Enyx­jYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@c­omcast.com...>> >
You seem to have all the answers, what is your take on the >> > John/Yoko/May>> > thing?>>
John left Yoko because he wanted to. He spent time with May because he >> wanted>> to. He went back to Yoko because he wanted to. He stayed with Yoko >> because>> he wanted to.>
My lips are sealed.............­....:-)­

Considering where you get your information from, they should be.


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Poisoned Rose 18 December 2006 01:43:16 permanent link ]
 terra <smokerdude66@myway­.com> wrote:
I suppose all that's left is to killfile her

But you won't.
takes it so far beyond reality into a Twilight Zone of hatred it just > becomes an exercise in trolling, whether it's meant to be or not

All trolling is "meant to be," by definition. Another example of how
grossly you overuse this term.
It's just too bad that someone who presumably could add something > to this place beyond the usual uninformed hate-filled trolls and flames > (with what looks like false 'manners')

I don't know why you keep attacking her "manners," of all things --
it's a positive trait, and an area where you yourself fall short
most of the time.

F.'s Yoko fixation is exasperating and deeply weird, but she never
loses her cool and always writes grammatical, well-phrased,
well-formatted posts -- that's a big plus.
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BlackMonk 18 December 2006 01:54:56 permanent link ]
 
"fishandchips" <Chippandfish@aol.c­om> wrote in message
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BlackMonk wrote:>> "fishandchips" <Chippandfish@aol.c­om> wrote in message>> news:1166384755.239­159.138490@73g2000cw­n.googlegroups.com..­.>> >
BlackMonk wrote:>> >> "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message>> >> news:_audnYZJw5Enyx­jYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@c­omcast.com...>> >> >
You seem to have all the answers, what is your take on the>> >> > John/Yoko/May>> >> > thing?>> >>
John left Yoko because he wanted to. He spent time with May because he>> >> wanted>> >> to. He went back to Yoko because he wanted to. He stayed with Yoko>> >> because>> >> he wanted to.>> >
My lips are sealed.............­....:-)­>>
Considering where you get your information from, they should be.>
You have NO idea where I get my information........­.who is it?, who is> it?>

May Pang, the originator of the loopy "John was hypnotized" theory.


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Terra 18 December 2006 07:40:57 permanent link ]
 White Shadow <wampum@maximus.com­> wrote in
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I thought her original analysis above was right-on. Sorry you don't> see it that way.

Well, since all she did was create inner dialogue John never said to
himself I suppose you could just create me seeing it that way.>


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Terra 18 December 2006 08:20:37 permanent link ]
 poisoned rose <closeupthehonkyplo­nks@aol.com> wrote in
news:7Zphh.9309$Ga1­.3524@newssvr12.news­.prodigy.net:
terra <smokerdude66@myway­.com> wrote:>
I suppose all that's left is to killfile her>> >
But you won't.>>
I will again for now.>
All right. Then I'll expect to see no comments from you about her > posts for awhile.>
All trolling is "meant to be," by definition. Another example of>> > how grossly you overuse this term.>>
And of course I knew you'd make your usual post. You and I do the>> exact same thing. Critique someone we totally disagree with. The>> only difference between us is I can admit when I'm wrong, and I do>> not hold myself above nearly everyone else in the newsgroup(s). >> You're a legend...in your own room.>
A lot of "attitude" here, but nothing which actually counters what I > wrote above.

No, it makes an entirely different point. That's actually allowed!>
I don't know why you keep attacking her "manners," of all things -->> > it's a positive trait, and an area where you yourself fall short >> > most of the time.>>
Because they're false, a put-on.>
Whether "true" or "false," her calm conversational tone is not > responsible for any of the group's major flamewars. Her posts are > very steady emotionally, so she doesn't "escalate" battles.

That's purely untrue. Anyone can say something inflammatory in a soft
voice. Arguments are started and fought over ideas as much as delivery.

You only confuse content with delivery because it suits your argument at
the moment.>
F.'s Yoko fixation is exasperating and deeply weird, but she never >> > loses her cool and always writes grammatical, well-phrased, >> > well-formatted posts -- that's a big plus.>>
It's meaningless in the big picture of trolling. Something you know>> a lot about.>
You really need to figure out a way to start arguing *content* with > people, instead of just trying to generally demonize them.

LOL....right. Again, wonderful sounding and totally irelevant
statements. Delfection of a high magnitude.>
Yes, I did pontificate too much on that post>
Well, actually, it was a lot more "controlled" than many of your > posts, so...good.

So let me get this straight. *I* am not allowed to complain when she
posts 9 posts in the overnight hours, every one a ridiculous stretch to
yet again indict Yoko for some imagined crime, and yet *you* are
perfectly right to complain about my posts for your own criteria (and
only yours...since you create issues just to complain)...

I am NOT alone in attacking her gossip and imagination laden posts, and
yet not only do I see *you* also complaining to her about her posts but
you are not chastising a *single other person* who tries to let her know
how fattuous she really is being. If my post was, as you say,
"controlled", then what excuse do you have for bursting the usual
complaint about it?

Any excuse in a storm, eh, Eric?>


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Poisoned Rose 18 December 2006 08:48:51 permanent link ]
 terra <smokerdude66@myway­.com> wrote:
I suppose all that's left is to killfile her> >
But you won't.>
I will again for now.

All right. Then I'll expect to see no comments from you about her
posts for awhile.
All trolling is "meant to be," by definition. Another example of how > > grossly you overuse this term.>
And of course I knew you'd make your usual post. You and I do the exact > same thing. Critique someone we totally disagree with. The only > difference between us is I can admit when I'm wrong, and I do not hold > myself above nearly everyone else in the newsgroup(s). You're a > legend...in your own room.

A lot of "attitude" here, but nothing which actually counters what I
wrote above.
I don't know why you keep attacking her "manners," of all things -- > > it's a positive trait, and an area where you yourself fall short > > most of the time.>
Because they're false, a put-on.

Whether "true" or "false," her calm conversational tone is not
responsible for any of the group's major flamewars. Her posts are
very steady emotionally, so she doesn't "escalate" battles.
F.'s Yoko fixation is exasperating and deeply weird, but she never > > loses her cool and always writes grammatical, well-phrased, > > well-formatted posts -- that's a big plus.>
It's meaningless in the big picture of trolling. Something you know a > lot about.

You really need to figure out a way to start arguing *content* with
people, instead of just trying to generally demonize them.
Yes, I did pontificate too much on that post

Well, actually, it was a lot more "controlled" than many of your
posts, so...good.
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Rhonda 19 December 2006 18:59:21 permanent link ]
 fishandchips wrote:
My lips are sealed.............­....:-)­

Apparently not.
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Poisoned Rose 19 December 2006 20:39:21 permanent link ]
 terra <smokerdude66@myway­.com> wrote:
All trolling is "meant to be," by definition. Another example of> >> > how grossly you overuse this term.> >>
And of course I knew you'd make your usual post. You and I do the> >> exact same thing. Critique someone we totally disagree with. The> >> only difference between us is I can admit when I'm wrong, and I do> >> not hold myself above nearly everyone else in the newsgroup(s). > >> You're a legend...in your own room.> >
A lot of "attitude" here, but nothing which actually counters what I > > wrote above.>
No, it makes an entirely different point. That's actually allowed!

OK. But I really felt Billie Jean King earned her win over Bobby
Riggs in that Battle of the Sexes match. And coffee is wildly
overrated.

Oh yeah...and trolling is "meant to be" trolling, by definition.
Whether "true" or "false," her calm conversational tone is not > > responsible for any of the group's major flamewars. Her posts are > > very steady emotionally, so she doesn't "escalate" battles.>
That's purely untrue. Anyone can say something inflammatory in a soft > voice. Arguments are started and fought over ideas as much as delivery.> You only confuse content with delivery because it suits your argument at > the moment.

Flamewars are not fought by people with "soft voices." "Arguments"
are not nearly as destructive to a newsgroup as "flamewars." And
there is a difference.
It's meaningless in the big picture of trolling. Something you know> >> a lot about.> >
You really need to figure out a way to start arguing *content* with > > people, instead of just trying to generally demonize them.>
LOL....right. Again, wonderful sounding and totally irelevant > statements. Delfection of a high magnitude.

Oops, back to posturing "LOL" mode. And increased typos, indicating
unthinking "heat of the moment" key-pounding.

Deflection from *what*? More aimless talk about "trolling"?

You don't argue content. Your most common way of arguing with people
is to ignore their debate points; call them "sick," "psychotic,"
"stalker," "troll," etc.; and announce that, generally, nothing they
ever say should be taken seriously. Because they're "not one of us."
In particular, you've cried "Troll!" so often that it became the
stuff of self-parody ages ago. Why you think this constitutes a
solid counterargument, I'll never know. And the lamest thing is that
someone can eyeroll about how formulaically you resort to empty
"LOL" swagger and "troll"-esque namecalling, and you'll generally
respond to this with...empty "LOL" swagger and "troll"-esque
namecalling.
I am NOT alone in attacking her gossip and imagination laden posts, and > yet not only do I see *you* also complaining to her about her posts but > you are not chastising a *single other person* who tries to let her know > how fattuous she really is being. If my post was, as you say, > "controlled", then what excuse do you have for bursting the usual > complaint about it?

I made three brief objections to a lengthy character-attack post.
Percentagewise, that's a good showing for you.
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Terra 19 December 2006 22:30:33 permanent link ]
 poisoned rose <closeupthehonkyplo­nks@aol.com> wrote in
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"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and>> marcus? Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.

Wow. Breathless self-deception. It's never going happen, Gondola.
Insanity is still trying to force me or anyone to do it. Guess you must
be a psycho then, huh?

You ignored (as you usually do) my very simple question from the other
thread:

Why out of 3 lame jokes did you only choose Marcus to compalin
about?

Be honest, both with us and yourself for a change.

Incidentally, one of the most central traits of a Usenet "stalker" > is straining to push outside-Usenet personal information into the > newsgroup to "damage" the target -- and NO ONE here does this as > anywhere near as much as you. Whether it's me, Chewbop, Sal or > whoever else.

More lies & hyperbole. My name, *address and phone number* have been
splashed all over this newsgroup for years, by both Sal and Chew and
others. More EB misinformation tactics.

Your name IS Eric Broome. You certainly had no problem putting it up on
your web page honoring your juvenile trolling skills. Why are you
ashamed of it now?

It's no strain, trust me. And so long as you feel it is your duty to
harrass me and select others I see no reason why you should need to hide
behind a user name to do it.

As to 'damage'? You damage yourself every time you post your tripe far
more effectively than I ever will.

Let's see if you actually answer the simple question posed now or if you
snip and ignore it as you usually do. You cannot control yourself, you
WILL answer this, so I will allow you the last word yet again. Even if
it is deceptive, repetitive and useless.

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Terra 19 December 2006 22:34:36 permanent link ]
 You're a hypocritical bore with no self-awareness.

Now, be sure to create more "issues" to assail others with:

LOL's
Number of posts
Quick replies
Yawns
Plonks
etc. etc.

Oh wait, you only assail two posters.

Hypocrite. You 'get' it, you simply refuse to acknowledge it. Same with
fatt.



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Tar 20 December 2006 03:25:37 permanent link ]
 poisoned rose wrote:>
"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and marcus?> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.

LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It even
caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be
turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find
self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!

Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I
suppose that's a step in the right direction.
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Terra 20 December 2006 03:29:21 permanent link ]
 
"TAR" <tom.rach@ix.netcom­.com> wrote in message
news:4588838C.68B6@­ix.netcom.com...> poisoned rose wrote:>>
"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:>>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and >> > marcus?>> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?>>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.>
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It even> caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be> turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find> self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!>
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I> suppose that's a step in the right direction.

Not really.

He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few lucky
folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think he'll
ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.

And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most condescending
manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky people.

He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this but is
in fact in the thick of it.



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Tar 20 December 2006 03:43:53 permanent link ]
 terra wrote:>
"TAR" <tom.rach@ix.netcom­.com> wrote in message> news:4588838C.68B6@­ix.netcom.com...> > poisoned rose wrote:> >>
"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:> >>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and> >> > marcus?> >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?> >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.> >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It even> > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be> > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find> > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!> >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I> > suppose that's a step in the right direction.>
Not really.>
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few lucky> folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think he'll> ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.>
And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most condescending> manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky people.>
He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this but is> in fact in the thick of it.

No need to explain any of this. It's all quite obvious. I'm getting a
kick out of some of the things he wrote on this thread. The guy is so
clueless to his own faults, and a major snob for no good reason.
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dlarsson wrote:>> >> Yoko resorted to some really ugly stuff to get John back. He was,>> >> after all, her meal ticket.>>
This is clearly a distortion.>> First of all, John wanted to get back with Yoko and several of>> the people that John hung out with in L.A. said that he continued>> to talk about that.>>
The song "Bless You" was written during his separation about Yoko.>
I believe there were times during the Lost Weekend that John wanted to> get back with Yoko, but I also believe he was wavering as shown by> May's book and other source. He did love May.>

His ex-girlfriend says he really wanted to be with her, and you consider
that a good source?

Yet when he says he'd rather be with Yoko, you make excuses why he couldn't
really mean what he said?
Further more, your comments do not change the fact that Yoko saw John> as her meal ticket.>

Not fact. Opinion. Yours.



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what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and > >> > marcus?> >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?> >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.> >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It even> > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be> > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find> > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!> >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I> > suppose that's a step in the right direction.>
Not really.>
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few lucky > folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think he'll > ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.>
And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most condescending > manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky people.>
He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this but is > in fact in the thick of it.

Charlie's ace in the hole is that he knows no matter how much of a
screaming, irrational clown he makes of himself, Mommy TAR will
trail behind him, assuring him he's A-OK.
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Tar 20 December 2006 05:28:55 permanent link ]
 poisoned rose wrote:>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and> > >> > marcus?> > >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?> > >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.> > >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It even> > > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be> > > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find> > > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!> > >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I> > > suppose that's a step in the right direction.> >
Not really.> >
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few lucky> > folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think he'll> > ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.> >
And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most condescending> > manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky people.> >
He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this but is> > in fact in the thick of it.>
Charlie's ace in the hole is that he knows no matter how much of a> screaming, irrational clown he makes of himself, Mommy TAR will> trail behind him, assuring him he's A-OK.

If it makes you feel more comfortable to believe that, Eric, rather than
facing your own demons, then by all means go right ahead.

- Donna
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"Sixties Gen" <sixtiesgen@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message
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TAR wrote:>> terra wrote:>> >
"TAR" <tom.rach@ix.netcom­.com> wrote in message>> > news:4588838C.68B6@­ix.netcom.com...>> > > poisoned rose wrote:>> > >>
"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:>> > >>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and>> > >> > marcus?>> > >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?>> > >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.>> > >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It >> > > even>> > > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be>> > > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find>> > > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!>> > >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I>> > > suppose that's a step in the right direction.>> >
Not really.>> >
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few >> > lucky>> > folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think >> > he'll>> > ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.>> >
And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most >> > condescending>> > manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky >> > people.>> >
He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this but >> > is>> > in fact in the thick of it.>>
No need to explain any of this. It's all quite obvious. I'm getting a>> kick out of some of the things he wrote on this thread. The guy is so>> clueless to his own faults, and a major snob for no good reason.>
Is Toxic Rose still around?>
I thought he was posting over at alt.pompousass

He never leaves. His mission is to chastise his personal victims forever,
with no reaon. You, I and Donna. Then to everyone else he talks down to
like a retarded child.

We're all so lucky to be allowed to live in Eric's little world!>



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"Sixties Gen" <sixtiesgen@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message> news:1166633506.559­167.76240@t46g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> >
TAR wrote:> >> terra wrote:> >> >
"TAR" <tom.rach@ix.netcom­.com> wrote in message> >> > news:4588838C.68B6@­ix.netcom.com...> >> > > poisoned rose wrote:> >> > >>
"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:> >> > >>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and> >> > >> > marcus?> >> > >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?> >> > >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.> >> > >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It> >> > > even> >> > > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be> >> > > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find> >> > > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!> >> > >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I> >> > > suppose that's a step in the right direction.> >> >
Not really.> >> >
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few> >> > lucky> >> > folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think> >> > he'll> >> > ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.> >> >
And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most> >> > condescending> >> > manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky> >> > people.> >> >
He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this but> >> > is> >> > in fact in the thick of it.> >>
No need to explain any of this. It's all quite obvious. I'm getting a> >> kick out of some of the things he wrote on this thread. The guy is so> >> clueless to his own faults, and a major snob for no good reason.> >
Is Toxic Rose still around?> >
I thought he was posting over at alt.pompousass>
He never leaves. His mission is to chastise his personal victims forever,> with no reaon. You, I and Donna. Then to everyone else he talks down to> like a retarded child.>
We're all so lucky to be allowed to live in Eric's little world!

That's not Eric Poisoned Rose's mission. His mission is to boost his
own self-confidence level. That's why he puts on an air of superiority,
and continuously criticizes people on a public newsgroup. He's hoping
that he'll make himself look better by comparision. Unfortunately, it
backfires.
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"TAR" <tom.rach@ix.netcom­.com> wrote in message
news:45897176.2216@­ix.netcom.com...> terra wrote:>>
"Sixties Gen" <sixtiesgen@yahoo.c­om> wrote in message>> news:1166633506.559­167.76240@t46g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.>> >
TAR wrote:>> >> terra wrote:>> >> >
"TAR" <tom.rach@ix.netcom­.com> wrote in message>> >> > news:4588838C.68B6@­ix.netcom.com...>> >> > > poisoned rose wrote:>> >> > >>
"terra" <smokerdude66@yahoo­.com> wrote:>> >> > >>
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me >> >> > >> > and>> >> > >> > marcus?>> >> > >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?>> >> > >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.>> >> > >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! >> >> > > It>> >> > > even>> >> > > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be>> >> > > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find>> >> > > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!>> >> > >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. >> >> > > I>> >> > > suppose that's a step in the right direction.>> >> >
Not really.>> >> >
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few>> >> > lucky>> >> > folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). >> >> > Think>> >> > he'll>> >> > ever get a clue and stop? I don't, he enjoys it.>> >> >
And if he talks music to someone, it is usually in the most>> >> > condescending>> >> > manner, as if he is imparting great taste and wisdom to us lucky>> >> > people.>> >> >
He is just a major tool who wants to act as if he is above all this >> >> > but>> >> > is>> >> > in fact in the thick of it.>> >>
No need to explain any of this. It's all quite obvious. I'm getting >> >> a>> >> kick out of some of the things he wrote on this thread. The guy is so>> >> clueless to his own faults, and a major snob for no good reason.>> >
Is Toxic Rose still around?>> >
I thought he was posting over at alt.pompousass>>
He never leaves. His mission is to chastise his personal victims >> forever,>> with no reaon. You, I and Donna. Then to everyone else he talks down to>> like a retarded child.>>
We're all so lucky to be allowed to live in Eric's little world!>
That's not Eric Poisoned Rose's mission. His mission is to boost his> own self-confidence level. That's why he puts on an air of superiority,> and continuously criticizes people on a public newsgroup. He's hoping> that he'll make himself look better by comparision. Unfortunately, it> backfires.

It has for ten years. He still doesn't get it, which doesn't say much about
his intelligence level.



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news:1166637085.318­616.183030@a3g2000cw­d.googlegroups.com..­.> Thats your opinion not fact.>



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Frank from Deeetroit wrote:>> "White Shadow" <wampum@maximus.com­> wrote in message>> news:2aq8o2paaj49dh­a329avniivjdufct4ncs­@4ax.com...>> >I wanted to suggest that everyone read May Pang's book "Loving John">> > because she details exactly how Yoko got John back from May Pang in>> > late January 1975:>> >
By that time, Yoko had already had a failed solo tour of Japan with>> > her screeching antics, and knew that she would never have a successful>> > recording/performin­g career on her own. She knew that her future lay>> > with John's millions, and that if she hoped to go on living the easy>> > life, she had better get him away from May.>> >
So she basically kidnapped John and subjected him to mind>> > control/hypnosis/dr­ug therapy during a weekend-long marathon session>> > that originally started out as just a one hour "stop smoking hypnosis">> > session that Yoko had promised John would break him of his smoking>> > habit (she lied, of course, and said it had worked for her).>> >
Anyway, May's book provides some really interesting background>> > information about this sorry episode. Yoko then got pregnant that>> > weekend or during that week. I have no evidence to back this up, but>> > my guess is that she had been going to a fertility clinic to boost her>> > fertility so she could get pregnant and then finally and forever suck>> > John back to her permanently.>> >
John had become quite bored with Yoko and had stopped taking calls>> > from her in December 1974/January 1975, and was looking at houses to>> > buy for him and May Pang to live in, so he was very serious about May>> > after having lived with her for 18 months at Yoko's insistence.>> >
Yoko resorted to some really ugly stuff to get John back. He was,>> > after all, her meal ticket.>> >
More about that in a future post.>>
Sounds like a reasonable scenario.>
Semantics.>



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fattuchus@yahoo.com­ wrote:>> Frank from Deeetroit wrote:>> > "BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.ms­n.com> wrote in message>> > news:em244a$h54$1@a­ioe.org...>> > >
"Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message>> > > news:KpOdnTQ0ao8uHh­nYnZ2dnUVZ_ruknZ2d@c­omcast.com...>> > >>
"BlackMonk" <BlackMonk@email.ms­n.com> wrote in message>> > >> news:em1uv7$6gd$1@a­ioe.org...>> > >>>
"White Shadow" <wampum@maximus.com­> wrote in message>> > >>> news:2aq8o2paaj49dh­a329avniivjdufct4ncs­@4ax.com...>> > >>>> So she basically kidnapped John and subjected him to mind>> > >>>> control/hypnosis/dr­ug therapy during a weekend-long marathon >> > >>>> session>> > >>>> that originally started out as just a one hour "stop smoking >> > >>>> hypnosis">> > >>>> session that Yoko had promised John would break him of his smoking>> > >>>> habit (she lied, of course, and said it had worked for her).>> > >>>>
A person would have to either be a lunatic or know absolutely >> > >>> nothing>> > >>> about mind control/hypnosis/ drug therapy to believe this was >> > >>> possible.>> > >>>
Which are you?>> > >>>
I know several people who sucessfully used hypnosis to stop smoking.>> > >>
And from that you conclude that it would be possible to make John go >> > > back>> > > to Yoko even though he really wanted to stay with May Pang?>> >
Well, it seems obvious that Yoko tickled John in the wright places and >> > she>> > is a control freak. Once she reeled John in, they remained together >> > until>> > he passed. Not the first time in history that a women used her power >> > to>> > reel a guy in.>>
True.>>
First of all, hypnosis is far from 100% effective. Look at how many >> > > people>> > > try to use it to stop smoking and fail.>> >
I agree with you 100% on the effectiveness of hypnosis, however, I used>> > hypnosis to quit smoking in 1981 as well as about five other friends of >> > mine>> > and it worked for us. Far from a control group to study.>> >
Second, those people who successfully used it WANTED to stop smoking >> > > and>> > > were willingly hypotized.>> >
100% fact for sure.>> >
As easily John seemed to be led around by Yoko, the scenario seems>> > >> possible.>> > >
To someone who knows nothing about hypnosis and wants to believe the >> > > worst>> > > about Yoko (as evidenced by your use of "led around by Yoko"), >> > > perhaps.>> >
Well, from personal experience, I know a little about hypnosis. I had >> > a>> > late aquantance who had a hypnosis practice (she is dead, so I do not >> > know>> > what college degree she possessed in hypnosis, buy she did have a >> > degree in>> > hypnosis) for law enforcement. We used her sucessfully for recruits to>> > focus on their ability to improve on their marksmanship skills and to>> > concentrate on their studies for promotional exam testing. All persons>> > chose to use hypnosis as a tool to acheive a goal. Hypnosis is not as>> > commonly depicted on tv or in the movies. No one can swing a >> > pocketwatch in>> > front of a person and make the person quack like a duck.>> >
Yoko pussywhipped John, his choice. Not a negative comment towards >> > Yoko, a>> > lot of us guys get 'whipped over a women, no big deal.>
If you met this woman (I have), maybe then youd understand. I met her> and I quite humbly offered my moist hand. And I dont hate.>
While there are men out there who get whipped over a woman, I guess it>> is a matter of degree. I believe that sometimes when someone submerges>
Thats your opinion not fact>
themselves too much, it suggests a sick relationship. A number of>> insiders have suggested that John lost himself when he was with Yoko.>> (read Paul and Linda's Playboy interview; read Julian's comments that>> when Dad was with Yoko he was a "manipulated lost soul"; read Pete>> Shotton's comments that John wanted to be dominated.)>
Thats his opinion not fact>
I think the whole thing is sad. Sometimes there is a fine line between>> being "whipped" and overly dependent or even mentally ill.>



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fishandchips wrote:>> BlackMonk wrote:>> > "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager­.net> wrote in message>> > news:_audnYZJw5Enyx­jYnZ2dnUVZ_riknZ2d@c­omcast.com...>> > >
You seem to have all the answers, what is your take on the >> > > John/Yoko/May>> > > thing?>> >
John left Yoko becaue he wanted to. He spent time with May because he >> > wanted>> > to. He went back to Yoko because he wanted to. He stayed with Yoko >> > because>> > he wanted to.>>
My lips are sealed.............­....:-)­>
Thats your opinin not fact.>
I met this woman.>
Nuff said>



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 fattuchus@yahoo.com wrote:> TAR wrote:> > poisoned rose wrote:> > > Terra wrote:> > >
what exactly do you expect from your constant badgering of me and> > > > >> > marcus?> > > > >> > Gratitiude? Change? Agreement?> > > > >>
Easy answer: Change. Oh, and a shard of self-awareness.> > > > >
LOL! OMG, I just had to stop here because I'm laughing so hard! It even> > > > > caused a coughing fit. Eric Poisoned Rose, the man who should be> > > > > turning his pointer finger inward, is looking for others to find> > > > > self-awareness??! Oh, this is too much!> > > > >
Well, Charlie, at least Eric doesn't deny his constant badgering. I> > > > > suppose that's a step in the right direction.> > > >
Not really.> > > >
He gives a high minded spin to his trolling but he only targets few lucky> > > > folks and he has done so now for ten years (for marcus and I). Think he'll> > > >