It might not be this week-end, but Christmas shows from 1992-2004 that were in the library originally in the fall of 2005 could be returned for those who want a *lot* of Christmas music.
-Tim
"peterpuck9" > >
That's great news! Thanks and good luck......We will be looking
forward to what you can come up with.................Pete
Thank you, Mose for letting us know. I plan on joining the D.O.C. once orders are taken for the 2008 Demento Society membership package. What's the progress in getting the rights to stream the Westwood One shows?
-Ghastly Gary sez STAY DEMENTED!!!!!!
"Mysterious Mose" <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote in message news:4126aa5d-9693-4379-811e-53b2bbff13bf@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Hello rec.music.dementia!
My name is Mysterious Mose. As you might guess, I'm a long time
fan of the show. (Those who listened in the 70s might remember when
he used to play my song!) I have also just been hired by Dr. Demento
as his webmaster. My primary goal is to revitalize the streaming
portion of his web site.
I have been reading some of the articles here in the newsgroup,
trying to catch up on what the fans want. It is my goal to come up
with something that satisfies the majority of fans while still
allowing Dr. Demento to make a living at what he enjoys.
I have several ideas that I will be investigating in the coming
weeks. I understand that sound quality is a primary concern, so I
hope to address that soon, but it won't be this weekend. I hope you
understand that things can't always change at a moment's notice, but I
will keep you dementians and dementites informed of our progress, and
will respond to questions as best I can.
I look forward to making this a great experience for everyone.
Yes! (sorry, I can't put that in +4 font and bolded), It would be great to get access to the KMET shows of the WWO era. My fear is that WWO would also claim ownership of those shows, too. As someone who has taken fan-recorded tapes of some of those shows and put the pieces back together for myself and the original archiver, I would be interested in them. On an on-demand, buy one-at-a time at 128-44-S basis. I would say there would be particular interest in the interview shows. If one could be added per month, it would be great, more than that, fantastic.
I think you are comparing apples to pomegranates. Take a look at the number of 2006 shows listened to in November, 2007 to the number of shows listened to from the 70's. Of course, the fans are going to listen to the recent shows.
Web-only recreations of older shows would be for things like the '50 Years of Dementia' shows (2) done in 1980; which would now need another show for the past 27 years. Or 'The Dr. Demento Election Special (1928 - 1980)' done November 2, 1980. Or. 'songs of the First Great Depression'. Your radio station managers just might not 'get' a show made up of so many older tunes, were your web audience just might.
Oh well, thanks for coming on board and listening to and responding to what the audience wants.
-Tim
"Mysterious Mose" <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote ...
Hello David!
David Tanny asked "Would it be possible for Dr. D to recreate some
of the shows from the Westwood One playlist era?"
Well, yes, it would be possible, but not productive.
What we could do instead is post KMET shows from the
Westwood One era, which might be even better. Most folks
outside of the L.A. area haven't heard the glory that was 4 hours of
Dr. Demento every Sunday night in the 70s and 80s. Those who were
there know what I'm talking about.
This brings up an interesting question though - are people more
interested in older shows or newer shows? I have checked through the
logs, and the response for newer shows is much greater. It looks like
the number of listens to shows from November 2007 is roughly
equivalent to the total number of listens to all shows posted from the
1970s.
Perhaps the selection of older shows isn't wide enough? I hope to
be able to post more older shows in the new year, and we'll see what
FoxWolfie Galen 25 November 2007 02:57:11 [ permanent link ]
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:10:40 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
This brings up an interesting question though - are people more
interested in older shows or newer shows?
My personal favorites are shows from the mid 1970s through the mid 1990s. Almost any Dr. Demento show is good, but after the first 20 years, the amount of unique and truly demented music has gone down. Given a choice, I'll always download a random old show over a random new one.
I have checked through the
logs, and the response for newer shows is much greater. It looks like
the number of listens to shows from November 2007 is roughly
equivalent to the total number of listens to all shows posted from the
1970s.
The current month's shows are always going to have the most listeners. Try comparing the number of listeners to a year 2000 show, with something from the 1970s or 1980s.
Perhaps the selection of older shows isn't wide enough? I hope to
be able to post more older shows in the new year, and we'll see what
happens as more become available.
Maybe the current shows could remain at $2 each, and the older archived shows could be arranged in month-based packages of four or five for $5. That way, people could grab any month from any year that was available. Maybe the more popular December and October months could $6 or something, to help balance out the demand. Another possibility could be themed packages. That could be something like Animal shows, or car shows, etc, where there would be four or five similar themed shows from different years. Make them something like $6 per package. The cost per show would be low, which might increase the number of purchases, but the number of PayPal transactions per show would be reduced because of the package size. That could work to everyone's advantage. My main concern will always be the ability to actually download and keep the shows, in a suitable quality. Many people simply don't have the time or ability to listen while they are downloading, so they do their listening later. I think 128kbps would be great bit-rate, especially since they would probably be encoded from a good source, such as what the Doctor himself probably has access to. I't would still be good to offer a reduced quality 48kbps or 64kbps option for those with slower connections to the net. A person's payment could give them access to whichever bit-rate they preferred. If the shows were downloadable as well as streamable, it would be a great advantage to people. Just give people 72 hours to retrieve their desired shows after paying, with an unlimited number of retries. Many people who are serious about downloading files of that size probably use a download manager that can grab the shows in the background and retry as needed.
Hopefully, your help will keep the Doctor doing shows for another ten years or longer. -- FoxWolfie
John Lorentz 25 November 2007 04:32:27 [ permanent link ]
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:10:40 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
It's sort of like: What if your mom threw out all your high school
math homework? Could you redo all of it? Maybe, but you probably
have better things to do. What we could do instead is post KMET shows
from the Westwood One era, which might be even better. Most folks
outside of the L.A. area haven't heard the glory that was 4 hours of
Dr. Demento every Sunday night in the 70s and 80s. Those who were
there know what I'm talking about.
This brings up an interesting question though - are people more
interested in older shows or newer shows? I have checked through the
logs, and the response for newer shows is much greater. It looks like
the number of listens to shows from November 2007 is roughly
equivalent to the total number of listens to all shows posted from the
1970s.
Perhaps the selection of older shows isn't wide enough? I hope to
be able to post more older shows in the new year, and we'll see what
happens as more become available.
I think it's very the case that the selection of older shows isn't wide enough...and it's now been more than a year since we've seen an older show even posted to the site. So the only reason to puchase a show from the site in recent months as has been to get the newest show if it's not available elsewhere.
KMET shows would certainly be attractive to me (as would the Westwood One shows they they ever budged on shows). As the character said on Numb3rs last night, three things make comics (and radio shows) valuable: age, scarity and quality. Older/less available shows, in good quality (128mps at least) would certainly bring in money from from me.
I'm very happy you've taken on the job. I've been listening to Barry's show for just short of 30 years (next April will mark 30), and I'd be very happy to see the show keep paying for itself in one fashion or another so it keeps running for as long as Barry wants to do it.
I would really enjoy the older shows. No offence to any of the talented people here, but to me the best shows were the ones with the stuff from the 30's and 40's through the 60's. I used to have to sneak out of my bedroom Sunday night to listen to the Dr on 1360 KRUX in Phoenix in the early to mid 70's. Good to hear that things are going to get better. I want to join, but until some of the issues have been improved I can't justify the cost. Russ
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:10:40 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Hello David!
David Tanny asked "Would it be possible for Dr. D to recreate some
of the shows from the Westwood One playlist era?"
Well, yes, it would be possible, but not productive. He has
enough to keep him busy with the new show each week and other business
activities, plus rumor has it that he occasionally has a personal
life.
It's sort of like: What if your mom threw out all your high school
math homework? Could you redo all of it? Maybe, but you probably
have better things to do. What we could do instead is post KMET shows
from the Westwood One era, which might be even better. Most folks
outside of the L.A. area haven't heard the glory that was 4 hours of
Dr. Demento every Sunday night in the 70s and 80s. Those who were
there know what I'm talking about.
This brings up an interesting question though - are people more
interested in older shows or newer shows? I have checked through the
logs, and the response for newer shows is much greater. It looks like
the number of listens to shows from November 2007 is roughly
equivalent to the total number of listens to all shows posted from the
1970s.
Perhaps the selection of older shows isn't wide enough? I hope to
be able to post more older shows in the new year, and we'll see what
Jeff Morris 25 November 2007 23:30:07 [ permanent link ]
I used to have to sneak out of my bedroom Sunday night to listen to the
Dr on 1360 KRUX in Phoenix in the early to mid 70's.
FYI, the best I can tell, KRUX started playing the show on March 16, 1975, with the "What Is Dementia?" show, then continued with the normal shows after that through at least May. They may have had it much longer.
FoxWolfie Galen 26 November 2007 05:18:32 [ permanent link ]
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:33:00 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Thank you, Tim, John, and everybody else for all the input! Feel
free to continue to contact me here or by e-mail. I cannot change
everything, and I cannot normally change anything in an instant, but I
do intend to do everything in my power to make things better for all
involved!
Having someone who is listening and communicating is probably the most important thing that can be done. I have no doubt that things will improve as time goes on. Maybe, the end result will be not only a better site, but also more general interest in the Doctor and perhaps some additional stations picking him up again. -- FoxWolfie
Well, I was trying to get an answer awhile back about the DOC. How is it set up essentially. The website got me confused regarding the shows available through the DOC and how they are streamed/downloaded. If you are familiar with the MadMusicArchives, that to me is the ideal setup. Granted, the MMA is free, but I like how all the shows are available, and even broken up into manageable sizes.. If the membership fees allows unlimited streaming of the shows for the DOC that would be great. That was the main point I couldn't get an answer to here. When I read the info on the web DOC site, it seemed to say both yes and no. I frankly can't afford $2 a show, especially for a bad stream, and having to use PayPal is not really a good thing in my book. Having those two together makes it a no win for me at this point. If the show was downloadable, so I could listen to 15 minutes here, 10 minutes there, as my schedule allows, the fee wouldn't be so bad. I don't often have a full 2 hours of online time in one sitting anymore. Which in my case at least would make it more like $6-8 a show once I was able to listen to all of it. Like I said above, if the monthly membership fee allows unlimited shows, then that wouldn't be a big issue. Thanks. Russ
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:43:46 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Thanks for your comments, Russ!
We are definitely planning to add more older shows.
You mention joining after things have been improved - are there
any issues from your standpoint which haven't already been discussed
here?
I hope I can make some changes over the next month or so, and see
you in the D.O.C. soon!
MM
russ wrote:
I would really enjoy the older shows.
No offence to any of the talented people here, but to me
the best shows were the ones with the stuff from the 30's and 40's
through the 60's. I used to have to sneak out of my bedroom Sunday
night to listen to the Dr on 1360 KRUX in Phoenix in the early to mid
70's.
Good to hear that things are going to get better. I want to join, but
until some of the issues have been improved I can't justify the cost.
Russ
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:10:40 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose
<webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Hello David!
David Tanny asked "Would it be possible for Dr. D to recreate some
of the shows from the Westwood One playlist era?"
Well, yes, it would be possible, but not productive. He has
enough to keep him busy with the new show each week and other business
activities, plus rumor has it that he occasionally has a personal
life.
It's sort of like: What if your mom threw out all your high school
math homework? Could you redo all of it? Maybe, but you probably
have better things to do. What we could do instead is post KMET shows
from the Westwood One era, which might be even better. Most folks
outside of the L.A. area haven't heard the glory that was 4 hours of
Dr. Demento every Sunday night in the 70s and 80s. Those who were
there know what I'm talking about.
This brings up an interesting question though - are people more
interested in older shows or newer shows? I have checked through the
logs, and the response for newer shows is much greater. It looks like
the number of listens to shows from November 2007 is roughly
equivalent to the total number of listens to all shows posted from the
1970s.
Perhaps the selection of older shows isn't wide enough? I hope to
be able to post more older shows in the new year, and we'll see what
FoxWolfie Galen 26 November 2007 21:06:21 [ permanent link ]
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:06:58 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
If you buy one of the $2 streams, you also get three tries, but
you only get low quality unless you are a D.O.C. member. We will not
make you spend $6-$8 just to hear one show.
I also tend to listen to portions of a show at one time. I might do a half hour to an hour at one time, then come back later to hear the rest. I often don't have a single two-hour time when I can listen to a show from start to finish. With a download, it is easy. I just play from where I left off. With a stream, it usually requires starting from the beginning, so listening to the last half hour could require playing the previous 90 minutes. I know that a stream can sometimes be paused, but that normally only lasts until a user logs off, or restarts their system, which for many people is a periodic fact of life. Anyone who shares a computer might log off several times a day. So, it is easy to imagine a stream costing some people more than $2, or that some people simply never get to hear the last portion of a show.
The proposed higher quality streams and addition of more older shows will certainly please a lot of people. That by itself should bring in more paying listeners. Splitting each show into hour-long streams would also help for those who couldn't listen to all at one time.
One thing I personally take into account is that there might be only one to three new songs in any particular show. Many of those new songs are often available from the artist's own website, the FuMP, or through the Mad Music Archive. This often means that there is simply no new material to me, sometimes from weeks at a time. I do like to hear what the Doctor has to say during the shows though. That's what makes it more than just a collection of demented songs. The funny thing is that ASCAP/BMI/SESAC are charging for the right to play the songs, but I'm actually most interested in the glue that holds the shows together - the Doctor himself. It's probably safe to say that I already have *almost* any song I will ever hear on the show by the time it airs, or I will be getting it from another source shortly after.
A stream is similar to a cigar, since it evaporates as it is used. A download is more like a record or CD, since it continues to exist after being used. With a download, if I feel like listening to a particular song or show, I can easily find and be listening to it within a few minutes. With a stream, that same desire could only be filled if the particular song or show was available at the time, and generally with yet another fee. For example, if I suddenly wanted to hear "Boy Wonder, I Love You," or "Song of the Sewer", I could dig them up in a few minutes from my downloaded and indexed archive, but what are the chances that those would be available in any of the currently running streams. And, if they were, how likely is it that I would have to pay $4, since it would likely mean streaming two different shows, and take several hours of listening before the desired songs could even be heard? This is why streams are of low value to me. They definitely work well for some people though. DRM is even worse, since I could have the files and go to listen, only to discover that they no longer worked. DRM files are of absolute zero value to me.
I'd have to say that I would pay up to around $2 to download selected shows, especially to fill in certain gaps in my collection from my favorite years. That generally means mostly pre-1990 stuff. I'd probably only be willing to pay around 10 to 20 cents for a stream though, which I know is not even close to being profitable for anyone. I would never pay any price for a DRM'd file, regardless of quality or content. That would be like paying for something with prior knowledge that it would be taken away from me. Imagine buying a CD and being told that it would self-destruct after three plays, or 30 days, whichever came first!
As for Paypal, that seems to be the easiest way to do payments on
the web, especially small one-time payments. It integrates with the
site, and it prevents people from having to share their credit card or
bank account information with us.
PayPal is definitely the easiest and safest way I can imagine to pay. I think a lot fewer people would even consider buying if they had to share their credit card info with yet another site. Traditional payment methods, like checks or money orders, are simply not suited to ordering an immediately available online stream or download, as the time involved would be unrealistic. What other payment methods are there, that are suitable to the web and the immediacy of this sort of purchase? I personally don't buy from most sites *unless* they take PayPal. -- FoxWolfie
Wayne S Garmil 26 November 2007 21:12:18 [ permanent link ]
In article <a471292b-3d9a-4a32-adc9-f8948000fbd6@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
(You can
also pause your player and restart later, which does not count towards
your three tries.)
When did this start? My experience has been once I pause or stop the stream, my purchase has ended. Also, I only get one try to get it to work; once I use my show password and get the streaming m3u link, the password is no longer valid so no retries.
When were these changes made to the DOC stream?
Wayne
-- _ __ _ __ | I see the girls walk by dressed in ' ) / // / / ) / | their summer clothes; I have to turn / / / o // __/ / __. __ __/ | my head until my darkness goes... (_(_/ <_</_(_/ (__/ (_/|_/ (_(_/_ | -Rolling Stones, "Paint It Black"
You are right, they aren't the answers I was hoping for, but at least now I am clear as to what is what.
I most likely would never be able to listen to more than 3 shows a week, but having that limit there does bother me. Plus, if what i am reading is right, there are only a limited amount of shows available to choose from. Which is another issue.
Paypal-I have used it in the past and have been lucky, no problems. But I really would rather give out credit card info instead of bank account info and the ability to get into my account, which they really try to get. Unless things have drastically changed. I have been with Ebay and Paypal for so long, some things get blurry.
Do you offer or have you considered offering plain old fashioned check payments, at least for the DOC membership fees? I can't remember seeing anything on the site about that, although I could have missed it.
Russ
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:06:58 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Hello again, Russ,
I believe I can answer your questions about the D.O.C., although
you may not be happy with all of the answers.
As a club member, you are allowed three requested shows plus the
new show each week, so roughly 16 shows per month, just over one every
other day.
You are allowed to try to play your stream up to three times. If
there are problems after that, you can e-mail me and I can reset it,
but the thought is that normally three tries will be enough. (You can
also pause your player and restart later, which does not count towards
your three tries.)
If you buy one of the $2 streams, you also get three tries, but
you only get low quality unless you are a D.O.C. member. We will not
make you spend $6-$8 just to hear one show.
As for Paypal, that seems to be the easiest way to do payments on
the web, especially small one-time payments. It integrates with the
site, and it prevents people from having to share their credit card or
bank account information with us. My understanding is that most
people like it, although I do know there are anti-Paypal people who
have had various problems with them over the years. As Rick Nelson
said, "You can't please everyone..."
I hope this addresses your questions. I also hope I can make the
site more clear in the coming weeks and months so you and others are
not confused about how things work. Let me know if you have any other
questions or if my response was not satisfactory.
MM
russ wrote:
Well, I was trying to get an answer awhile back about the DOC. How is
it set up essentially. The website got me confused regarding the shows
available through the DOC and how they are streamed/downloaded. If you
are familiar with the MadMusicArchives, that to me is the ideal setup.
Granted, the MMA is free, but I like how all the shows are available,
and even broken up into manageable sizes.. If the membership fees
allows unlimited streaming of the shows for the DOC that would be
great. That was the main point I couldn't get an answer to here. When
I read the info on the web DOC site, it seemed to say both yes and no.
I frankly can't afford $2 a show, especially for a bad stream, and
having to use PayPal is not really a good thing in my book. Having
those two together makes it a no win for me at this point.
If the show was downloadable, so I could listen to 15 minutes here, 10
minutes there, as my schedule allows, the fee wouldn't be so bad. I
don't often have a full 2 hours of online time in one sitting anymore.
Which in my case at least would make it more like $6-8 a show once I
was able to listen to all of it. Like I said above, if the monthly
membership fee allows unlimited shows, then that wouldn't be a big
issue.
Thanks.
Russ
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:43:46 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose
<webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Thanks for your comments, Russ!
We are definitely planning to add more older shows.
You mention joining after things have been improved - are there
any issues from your standpoint which haven't already been discussed
here?
I hope I can make some changes over the next month or so, and see
you in the D.O.C. soon!
MM
russ wrote:
I would really enjoy the older shows.
No offence to any of the talented people here, but to me
the best shows were the ones with the stuff from the 30's and 40's
through the 60's. I used to have to sneak out of my bedroom Sunday
night to listen to the Dr on 1360 KRUX in Phoenix in the early to mid
70's.
Good to hear that things are going to get better. I want to join, but
until some of the issues have been improved I can't justify the cost.
Russ
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 08:10:40 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose
<webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Hello David!
David Tanny asked "Would it be possible for Dr. D to recreate some
of the shows from the Westwood One playlist era?"
Well, yes, it would be possible, but not productive. He has
enough to keep him busy with the new show each week and other business
activities, plus rumor has it that he occasionally has a personal
life.
It's sort of like: What if your mom threw out all your high school
math homework? Could you redo all of it? Maybe, but you probably
have better things to do. What we could do instead is post KMET shows
from the Westwood One era, which might be even better. Most folks
outside of the L.A. area haven't heard the glory that was 4 hours of
Dr. Demento every Sunday night in the 70s and 80s. Those who were
there know what I'm talking about.
This brings up an interesting question though - are people more
interested in older shows or newer shows? I have checked through the
logs, and the response for newer shows is much greater. It looks like
the number of listens to shows from November 2007 is roughly
equivalent to the total number of listens to all shows posted from the
1970s.
Perhaps the selection of older shows isn't wide enough? I hope to
be able to post more older shows in the new year, and we'll see what
FoxWolfie Galen 27 November 2007 20:11:43 [ permanent link ]
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:20:59 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
We will not charge someone repeatedly so they can continue to
listen to a show that cut off early on them, for whatever reason. The
logs tell us what percent of the show was streamed to their computer.
It would be nice if a "full stream downloaded" flag could be set, but only if it made it to the end of the show. Then the software could do an automatic reset if that condition has not been met, but deny any requests if the show already made it to the end - all automatically. That way, no one would need to go looking through the logs. I don't know how easy that would be to set up.
Having the show as one full stream is by design. I asked about
this, and was told it has to do with the ASCAP/BMI/SESAC contracts.
They do not want people to have a way to access a show from a point in
the middle, only to listen from beginning to end.
It sounds like they are imposing some really needless restrictions. If the entire show costs a certain amount, and they get that amount, why should they care how many parts it is downloaded in! They most know that if someone gets dropped 90 percent through a show, that the person probably won't appreciate the required time it would take to re-listen, just to get to that last 10 percent, even if there is no additional charge. That would needlessly waste a couple hours of the downloader's time, and also result in the server dishing out almost twice the bytes to supply just one complete show.
Thanks for explaining some of this. I never realized some of the restrictions that the ASCAP/BMI/SESAC had in place.
Hey Mo, It is a 'use it or loss it' each week? It seems to be represented as such. So if one where to take four weeks of vacation there would seem to be the need for one to use an extra choice of the current week to listen to last week's show. Since there had been no new old shows (OTR, Talonian, KMET, KPPC or GC) since July 22, 2006, some one who bought a yearly subscription would have run out shows to listen to by August of this year. I would not want to buy into an annual subscription until I can trust drdemento.com to add these older shows on a regular basis. Currently that would be 18 months of providing the product that was advertised before that trust can be restored. Is drdemento.com going to do something for those who bought into the current scheme and got shorted? If you had a subscription plan of being able to buy 26 shows for $40, or 13 shows for $22 ?52 shows for $78?, I could see getting into that. Mostly as a means to hear the latest show and to order up the older shows that have come into the library that would interest me. And that is with me choosing wheter I listen at good-quality (128-44-S) or dial-up quality (40-44-M). I would also want that choice for any single purchase.
-Tim
"Mysterious Mose" <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote ...
Hey there Russ!
First off, it's actually four shows per week, since it's the
newest show plus three extras of your choice. As for the limited
number, there are currently 217 choices, with more on the way. With a
new show each week, it would take you over a year to listen to all the
shows currently archived, and I promise more will be coming. Yes, in
the grand scheme of things, since the Doc has been doing shows for
more than 30 years, this is a small percentage of all shows. But it
Oh My, If I may ask, is this ASCAP/BMI/SESAC payment a fixed amount per show, or is it a fixed percent of total revenue? If quantity buying plans (like the ones I refered to in another post) can give a price-break would ASCAP/BMI/SESAC be participating in those plans by only getting their percent of revenue percent? If I may ask, does drdemento.com submit playlists to ASCAP/BMI/SESAC when you submit playments, so that our comedy artists should be getting their representative payments from them for the shows we be paying to stream?
-Tim
"Mysterious Mose" <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote ...
Let me address a few specific items from FoxWolfie Galen's
latest post...
...
Having the show as one full stream is by design. I asked about
this, and was told it has to do with the ASCAP/BMI/SESAC contracts.
They do not want people to have a way to access a show from a point in
the middle, only to listen from beginning to end. I find this an
unfortunate situation - if someone wanted to pay $2 for a show and
hear just one or two songs, why should it matter? ASCAP/BMI/SESAC
would still get money for all the songs in the show, so why should
they care? I admit it is confusing. I am not clear yet whether I
will have anything to do with renewals of these contracts, but if I am
involved, I will check into what it would take to change this. I
Remember, the customer you do not want is the one who leaves the store without complaining to never return again. A loose analogy would be the radio station managers that just dropped the new Talonian contract into the trash when it changed from barter to being charged for the show, without complaining or giving any feedback. So you might want to look (for yourself) at the number of subcriptions that expired without renewal. Then again, there are a number of rabid dementites.
-Tim (started listening to Dr. Demento in October, 1974 on KRFG, Radio Free Greenfield, Missouri)
"Mysterious Mose" <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote ... ...
So far, I am not aware of anyone complaining that they are being
shortchanged with their current subscription. In fact, there are many
subscribers who appear to be content only receiving the new show each
week, and who rarely request anything from the archive. So to some
people, $14.95 per month for one show per week in medium quality is
worth it, as opposed to $2 per week for low quality. A loose analogy
can be drawn to a buffet. Everyone pays the same price, but some
John Lorentz 1 December 2007 08:47:18 [ permanent link ]
On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:24:43 -0800 (PST), Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
BTW, is 1200 the number of shows you've heard? Wow, sounds like a
lot! Off the top of my head, I don't know how many I've heard.
Definitely hundreds. I guess it might be past 1000 come to think of
it, but I never tried to add it up.
I've got about 1200 shows on file, but I'm about 100-200 behind in listening to all of them--despite listening to them all day long on my MP3 player at work (going through 4-5 shows a day). I'm slowly catching up.
The first of the Christmas shows (Dec 2, 2007) has been put up on http://drdemento.net/online.html (the shows page) with this note: *ALSO* This show is now in improved quality for both members and non-members! I clicked on the Buy Now button, but didn't see the selection of which bit-rate you would want. I'm not sure if that would be on a subsequent page.
-Tim
"Mysterious Mose" <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote ...
Hello rec.music.dementia!
My name is Mysterious Mose. I have been hired by Dr. Demento
as his webmaster. My primary goal is to revitalize the streaming
Tom Rockwell 30 December 2007 07:33:53 [ permanent link ]
In article <4ebc937e-9579-4cef-af85-90fa582ec57c@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Mysterious Mose <webmaster@drdemento.com> wrote:
Selling in groups is actually already on my list of things to
investigate. I know if people could buy multiple shows in one paypal
transaction, it would save us money. Perhaps we could set up a
shopping cart feature.
Hey Mose,
Tom Rockwell of Sudden Death here. I've been off the newsgroup for a bit. But anyway, I'm the webmaster for The FuMP. I just wanted to let you know if there's anything I can do to help you with your work over at drdemento.com just ask. I developed my own shopping cart for The FuMP because PayPal's shipping calculation sucks. I also developed the streaming Flash player that's on the site. I'm actaully working on a generic one that I can resell.
Anyway, anything I can help with don't hesitate to ask.
mr. mose I`m hunting for 1 show,#32 feb9 1975, I`m hunting for one song "The SPAGHETTI Song". I would like to get a copy of the words,better I liked to get it on a disc. I`ll take it anyway I can get it,write it in a letter,send it in my e-mail, call me on the phone and sing it to me ,whatever.I used to sing this song long before it was on Dr demento show. After many years most of the Family ha sforgotten the words so now if I have to make them up I do. They just don`t know for sure.Incidently another song that was on the playlist of that show was the b-side of the record. It ts "my Brudda sylveste" Thank You For your patence. Gumba1 E-mail tdattilo@sbcglobal.net
