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XYWE > Music > Zinka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!! 27 May 2006 21:43:32

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Zinka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

Charlie2 6 March 2005 03:28:15
 I sent this to my friend Leonardo for his new book....

Mio caro,
Before i mention Zinka, my friend James jorden will be
featuring Virginia Zeani..24 Hrs. a day on his "Gran Teatro Della
Cieca' Internet Radio show..i provided the material..and will let you
and her know when it starts and how to get to the station.

I never plan ahead on my posts..i let it FLOW...if you feel you
want more info..or whatever....just tell me.i could go on forever about
Zinka,whom I saw live 87 and a half times 9the half being the Verdi
Requiem, where she fainted (mercifully) in the middle..so here is what
I am feeling..and do whatever you want....edit..etc..­.....i will do my
best:

When one is young and begins to listen to opera,
certain singers attract them in a special way,and often these voices
leave an indelible impression for life. Such was the case of Zinka
Milanov, heard by me for the first time on the 1951 RCA Trovatore,and I
recall absolutely wearing out the "D'Amor sull'ali" section of the LP
(remember them??),not able to believe that a human voice could achieve
that level of beauty.
However, the RCA "Orthophonic Sound' technique diid
not tell me the entire story, owing to their kind of "echo effect," and
so when I first heard Zinka, live in the 1953 Forza,I absolutely could
not believe my ears, for the richness and the silver and the beauty of
that voice in the live theatre were even more incredible than the
recording. That was the season of the Normas, and although she had
difficulty with the fioratura and the top C's, I still feel that the
"later Zinka' as compared to the 1940's Zinka was absolutely
sensational,despite­ the erratic top C.
If one listens only to the "In mia man" section of
act four, the nobility of the line, the sheer power and magnificence of
this great voice emerge like perhaps only a Rosa Ponselle might have.
For my "golden Milanov moments" I will also add the double pianissimo
attack on "Ora soave" in act two Chenier duet, the amazing Ernani
trio,where she uses that luscious "mixed chest" voice and sails up to
the top,often using the "Milanov swell."
I also will point out the line in Act Four Andrea
Chenier, "Abbracciami,baciam­i, AMOOOOORE" which might have been the
all-time most amazing top A that anyone could imagine..it shook me out
of my seat (or standing room spot.)
Even at the very last Chenier,at Zinka's Met farewell
in 1966,and then the duet with Richard Tucker at the closing night of
the old Met,the voice was so bright and youthful, and up to B natural
it was still secure. I even have a Milanov vocal lesson from 1985,in
which she illustrates some sections of Forza with the Guardiano, and
she still could sing the high pianissimo on "mi toglierГ" in the duet
as if she was 39.(She was then 79).
God bless this great lady whose every phrase "I
can play in my head forever." She meant more to me as an artist than
anyone I ever heard.
Zinka adorata, ah come t'amo!"

I know you did not want me to
write the TALMUD...but how i could I write less......Love CH

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Rvdb 6 March 2005 03:41:58 permanent link ]
 
I never plan ahead on my posts..i let it FLOW...

More's the pity.

RVDB

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Charlie2 6 March 2005 03:54:03 permanent link ]
 glad you are enjoying my posts..ch

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Mitchell Kaufman 6 March 2005 04:08:29 permanent link ]
 Charlie2 <Placido21@aol.com>­ wrote:
Such was the case of Zinka Milanov, heard by me for the first time on the> 1951 RCA Trovatore

Actually it was '52.
However, the RCA "Orthophonic Sound' technique diid not tell me the entire> story, owing to their kind of "echo effect,"

The "Orthophonic Sound" nomenclature was virtually meaningless. The
tapes merely had echo applied to them before the records were pressed.
In later years (after the performance was reissued on the Victrola
label), they went back to the master tapes--without the echo--and the
excellent quality of the original recording became evident.

I recently bought a couple of original pressings of the Trovatore
(including *the* original, which had the record sleeves attached to a
kind of metal hanger in the box), and they sounded horrendous.

One instance where the reissue is far superior to the original.

MK
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Charlie2 6 March 2005 06:08:53 permanent link ]
 
glad you are enjoying my posts..ch

NOT ME!!!!!Not the first post either!!!!!!!! ch

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Elizabeth Hubbell 6 March 2005 11:36:52 permanent link ]
 [from Geoff Riggs; not Eliz. H., my better half]

Charlie2 wrote:>
glad you are enjoying my posts..ch>
NOT ME!!!!!Not the first post either!!!!!!!! ch

Forget it. I'm not going to pursue this any longer -- and yes, this
posting is yet another phony one with a

p-319.newsdawg.com

ID number. So what? I'd guess most of the other posters here have
already cottoned on as to what to look for in these phony postings. So
I'm not going to waste the forum's time any more (with regrets to those
who may already be exasperated).

<shrug>

Geoffrey Riggs
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RonStevens 6 March 2005 19:11:34 permanent link ]
 In article <422AB2E4.B6BE2360@­verizon.net>, Elizabeth Hubbell says...
I'd guess most of the other posters here have>already cottoned on as to what to look for in these phony postings. So>I'm not going to waste the forum's time any more

Thank God! Geoffrey, that's *five* times this evening. This is more than boring,
it's as if you're obsessed. It's a shame because I usually enjoy reading your
posts. But this relentless pursuit of Handelman's idiocy is really a turn-off.
Give it a rest!! Nobody cares!!

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Leonard Tillman 6 March 2005 21:29:10 permanent link ]
 
StinkyShorts Bollmann:
I could never figure out what you expected to> accomplish anyway.

Hell, stinky (not Helsinki), you could never figure out what YOU
expected to
accomplish anyway, whatwith your cascading, overflowing boll-fuls of
pure bollshyyte.

All 607 (if there be that number) of your sickening ID's are
identically disgusting for all practical purposes.

In the film Goliath and the Barbarians, there's a scene where opposing
teams of horses are trying to "divide" Steve Reeves, as it were.

They failed. Now, had YOU been the object of their efforts, would 1214
Bollmanns have suddenly plopped onto the dirt, like so many overripe
cowpuckies?? Not a pleasant concept, that.

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Charlie2 7 March 2005 02:18:13 permanent link ]
 Reynolds appears to be dubbing the voice of Jean Hagen, whereas in fact
it
is Jean Hagen dubbing the voice of Debbie Reynolds dubbing the voice of
Jean
Hagen.

My posts are now being dubbed in by Marni Nixon....CH

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Charlie2 7 March 2005 02:22:09 permanent link ]
 Llennnnnnnnnnie!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

Ya gotta be nice like me....Follow my example and you cannot go
wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at all the nice threads this last week.....TROLL
FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!CH

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Charlie2 7 March 2005 02:23:36 permanent link ]
 The only decent R.Stevens i know was a great Carmen and
Octavian..Nobody cares about the other one...ch

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